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BIG BAD JOHN McCAIN (Reinhard)
The Oregonian ^ | January 24, 2008 | David Reinhard

Posted on 01/24/2008 9:25:03 AM PST by jazusamo

Thursday, January 24, 2008

Heaven knows, I'm trying. I'm trying to warm to John McCain.

It shouldn't be this hard. He's a true-blue American war hero who sacrificed years of his life and parts of his body in the Hanoi Hilton. He's solidly pro-life and has been for years. He has an 82 percent lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union and is gangbusters against pork-barrel spending. He's been right and noble on the Iraq war. Finally, he's not only won two contested Republican presidential primaries -- imagine! -- but also polls well against Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Oh, and I almost forgot: I'm in the media, which McCain understandably calls his "base."

So what's not to like?

Well, maybe it starts with his "base." You don't get the kind of fawning media treatment McCain has received if you're a rock-solid conservative. You receive scorn and sneers. How do you secure breathless dispatches from your campaign bus and editorial-page plugs for your candidacies? Three related ways. One, you buy a critical mass of the mainstream media's orthodoxy. Two, you let it be known with a few just-us-guys wisecracks that you don't take some of the other conservative stuff that seriously. Three, you attack other conservatives who dare oppose your policies.

Many conservatives who came to love George Bush for the enemies he made dislike McCain for the friends he's made. I'm not there. My McCain "base" problem is that I think it's greedy for the mainstream media to want to have two candidates in the fall election -- a Democrat and a Republican "maverick."

Which brings us to my issues with McCain on the issues. Let's start with the Arizona senator's vote on the Bush tax cuts. He voted against both the 2001 and 2003 cuts. Today he insists he was right to oppose them, because Congress would not cut spending at the same time. In the past, however, his reasons for opposing these tax cuts had a far different emphasis.

"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate at the expense of middle-class Americans," he said in May 2001.

"I want to see tax cuts, if they are necessary, go to working Americans, not the wealthiest," he said in April 2003.

"I voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportionate amount that went to the wealthiest Americans," he said a year later.

Never mind that his current reasons for opposing Bush's tax cuts don't square with his past reasons. Never mind that this hardly qualifies as straight talk. The real problem is this: We'll already have one (Democratic) candidate playing the class-envy card on the Bush tax cuts come fall. Do we really need a second (Republican) candidate saying, "Me, too"?

The same goes for waterboarding. McCain calls it "torture" and gets high and mighty when anyone says otherwise. Democrats and the media eat this up because, who has greater authority on torture than McCain? Actually, I think it's his POW experience that calls his judgment on this issue -- an issue so deeply personal for him -- into question. Whatever the case, I'd like one candidate in the general election who believes waterboarding is legitimate when we've captured a terrorist who knows the location of a ticking nuclear bomb. I think the lives of Americans are worth more than the temporary psychological distress of a terrorist, but that's just me.

Then, there's immigration. McCain has favored amnesty for illegals for years. ("I think we can set up a program where amnesty is extended to a certain number of people," McCain said in 2003. "Amnesty has to be an important part, because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years . . . and are not citizens.") But he now says he's never done so. ("The fact is that I've never supported amnesty," he said last month.) Talk about getting taken for a ride on "The Straight Talk Express."

Then there's the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform's assault on First Amendment free speech and his over-the-edginess on man-made global warming and . . .

Heaven, help me, I'm trying.

President Hillary Clinton! President Hillary Clinton! President Hillary Clinton! President Hillary Clinton! President Hillary Clinton ! . . .


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: illegals; mccain; reinhard; taxes

1 posted on 01/24/2008 9:25:03 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

good article - except for the last line!


2 posted on 01/24/2008 9:28:43 AM PST by RDTF
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To: jazusamo

Got news for Rheinhart, McCain has NOT been solidly pro-life for years.


3 posted on 01/24/2008 9:30:51 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: RDTF

Agree...I think he used the wrong approach to say McCain can’t beat the Beast.


4 posted on 01/24/2008 9:31:50 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it.

The media love Maverick John because, in addition to keeping them entertained, they know they can destroy him if he ever wins the nomination.

The day after his nomination, they’ll turn on him with glee. He has so much baggage, it will be a contest to see how fast they can make him melt down spectacularly.


5 posted on 01/24/2008 9:32:22 AM PST by sinanju
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To: jazusamo

I didn’t know for sure but I wondered about that too.


6 posted on 01/24/2008 9:32:56 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: pissant

#6 was for you, pissant.


7 posted on 01/24/2008 9:35:55 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: pissant
He's solidly pro-life and has been for years.

Well, not when pro-life advocacy runs up against his precious CFR.

He has an 82 percent lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union and is gangbusters against pork-barrel spending.

I just heard him call for more "federal job training programs" as an answer to the "looming recession". Yeah, right, the Feds would train us to do exactly what?

8 posted on 01/24/2008 9:37:43 AM PST by San Jacinto (Three dangers to guard against: Osama, Obama, and Chelsea's Momma!!!)
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To: jazusamo

Like on most issues, he straddles the fence. Gun control too.


9 posted on 01/24/2008 9:38:16 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: jazusamo

Not the picture of a healthy, mentally stable individual.

10 posted on 01/24/2008 9:40:25 AM PST by petercooper (It's called subprime for a reason.)
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To: San Jacinto

He really really sucks


11 posted on 01/24/2008 9:41:05 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: jazusamo

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38b7e6657eee.htm.


12 posted on 01/24/2008 9:41:08 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Big Bad John(click to see photo and read article.)
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To: petercooper

Exactly, I’ve seen him get ugly a couple times.


13 posted on 01/24/2008 9:42:53 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

McCain is brutal. Nobody but NOBODY sums it up like Ann did yesterday:

http://www.anncoulter.com/

I happen to believe that in many ways McCain would be worse than Hillary.


14 posted on 01/24/2008 9:47:07 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: gitmogrunt

The MSM beloved McCain will not be able to withstand the change he will receive IF he is nominated. McCain will self destruct with justa few prods here and there...he will destroy himself along with any R’s or C’s!


15 posted on 01/24/2008 9:48:55 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: pissant

Proof is always helpful.


16 posted on 01/24/2008 9:52:23 AM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: jazusamo

Most importantly, perhaps, McCain is NOT a war hero. He was a big-time screwup. He was near the bottom of his class. He crashed five of his own planes. And although he did suffer as a POW in North Vietnam, he subsequently betrayed his fellow POW/MIAs, abusing his position as chair of the POW/MIA committee to cover up what was known about them and strike a deal with North Vietnam.

Of all his sins, crimes and misdemeanors, that to me was the worst.

He would not permit waterboarding our terrorist enemies, when it might saves American lives; yet he deliberately betrayed his fellow MIAs to obscurity and death.


17 posted on 01/24/2008 9:53:03 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: gitmogrunt

Thanks for the link, I’ll bet he wants that to go away.


18 posted on 01/24/2008 9:53:35 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Lancey Howard

Ha! Ann really ripped him.


19 posted on 01/24/2008 9:59:12 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Solson

Google is your friend


20 posted on 01/24/2008 10:01:13 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: jazusamo

Given a choice between McCain or Hillary in the White House I would far prefer McCain even though some of his positions are contrary to mine particularly his campaign finance reform and immigration bills. President Hillary would be a disaster for the US both economically and in security. Hillary’s rush to socialism will cause the US economy to fall on its face and her stance on global terrorism would mean IEDs would be exploding in US rather than Iraqi cities. Perhaps the only good thing to come out of Hillary’s presidency would be that it would pretty well assure the Democrats would be out of power for at least 20 years starting with the 2010 elections.


21 posted on 01/24/2008 10:07:25 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ
President Hillary would be a disaster for the US both economically and in security.

I couldn't agree more.

22 posted on 01/24/2008 10:12:36 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: iopscusa
..."he will destroy himself along with any R’s or C’s."

What do you mean by an "R" and "C"?

23 posted on 01/24/2008 10:18:03 AM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: jazusamo

My main concern about John McCain, besides the fact that he has shown great antipathy toward conservative beliefs, is that he would be terrible on the War on Terror. McCain might have had good suggestions for the Iraq and Afghanistan battles, but they are only individual fronts on the WOT. McCain has not shown a willingness to protect us from the Islamic extremists on any other front.


24 posted on 01/24/2008 10:25:18 AM PST by Eva
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To: RDTF
good article - except for the last line!

I think he was typing in his mantra in a desperate attempt to stay within the Republican fold. Kind of what someone might do when in a fetal position, rocking back and forth.

25 posted on 01/24/2008 10:25:51 AM PST by COBOL2Java (May the Lord bless and keep Hillary Clinton - far away from the White House!)
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To: petercooper
Not the picture of a healthy, mentally stable individual.

...notwithstanding, Katie Couric's dream candidate...

26 posted on 01/24/2008 10:28:17 AM PST by COBOL2Java (May the Lord bless and keep Hillary Clinton - far away from the White House!)
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To: Eva

Could be, I don’t know much about that aspect other than that his border stance is not conducive to fighting the wot.


27 posted on 01/24/2008 10:40:21 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: gitmogrunt

...”he will destroy himself along with any R’s or C’s” =
McCain will take out not only himself but the Republican/Conservatives also....a 1 man wrecking machine.


28 posted on 01/24/2008 10:44:45 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: COBOL2Java

yea I think you’re right! good analogy


29 posted on 01/24/2008 10:55:06 AM PST by RDTF
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To: jazusamo

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30 posted on 01/24/2008 11:45:14 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Algore - there's not a more priggish, sanctimonious moral scold of a church lady anywhere.)
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To: sinanju
The day after his nomination, they’ll turn on him with glee. He has so much baggage, it will be a contest to see how fast they can make him melt down spectacularly.
. . . or else they will hold their fire for an October "Surprise." But "surprise" belongs in quotes because we already know what's coming.

Not only Keating 5, but also a huge attack "from the right" to suppress the base. They will do the same thing on the latter front with Romney, but at least he probably has no significant scandal skeletons in his closet.


31 posted on 01/24/2008 4:11:54 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Not warming to McCrazy.

BEST QUOTE ON MCCAIN: -

“McCain seems to believe his wartime heroism entitles him to an unlimited moral bank account that he can withdraw from whenever it’s in his self-interest to do something dishonest.”


32 posted on 01/29/2008 3:25:59 AM PST by JaneNC (I)
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