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Pope attacks media for 'distorted morals' (praises Internet)
Times Online ^ | January 24, 2008 | Richard Owen

Posted on 01/24/2008 10:17:14 AM PST by NYer

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To: RichardMoore
I understand your larger point and agree whole-heartedly regarding the MSM and today's culture.

But my dish also gives me the opportunity to enjoy food, sports, the history channels and Book-TV. I don't think it's all bad.

21 posted on 01/25/2008 5:07:37 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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22 posted on 01/25/2008 5:12:25 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: HoosierHawk
It may not appear to be all bad but you are giving to the controlled media and supporting them. Also you are receiving messages in advertisments, both visually and through audio, that undermine good morality. The whole medium of television is aimed at your emotions and not your intellect. To say that some of it is good is to miss the truth of the situation. As McLuhan said,"The medium is the message." Everything is designed to get you to watch commercials. Thats why they are often times more interesting than the shows. But it is the medium itself which ultimately effects the viewer more than the content. The medium places the viewer in an "alpha wave" state and then injects it's message which is generally emotional. That's why so many people when asked will say,"We have to get rid of Bush!" a truly nonsensical statement since he is not running.

What you state is that TV is within your comfort zone. What I said was: "The early Christians were willing to die for the faith, are we even willing to be inconvenienced?"

23 posted on 01/26/2008 2:33:24 AM PST by RichardMoore (Freed from the degrading slavery of being a child of my age)
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RM: We are force fed “candidates” by the controlled media. It’s hard to even have a sensible conversation with the average person who has been hypnotized by the flickering screen. Turn it off and disconnect your cable if you want a Christian world.

HH: But my dish also gives me the opportunity to enjoy food, sports, the history channels and Book-TV. I don't think it's all bad.

You are both right but RM nails it when he notes that we are "force-fed" candidates by the media. The presidential election has turned into a media circus that begins the day after the election has ended and continues for 4 years. They use the power of tv to whip up public sentiment one way or another, turning us into shills. I used to be a news junkie, flipping between cnn, msnbc, fox, etc. Each night, I would find myself screaming at the news reporter for misleading information. I gave it up for Lent that year and never looked back. Like RM, I do my own research and follow the news on FR where we get full coverage via news stories from around the world.

RM is also correct in stating that many Americans are hypnotized by the flickering screen. When cable was first launched (okay this dates me) the salient reason for subscribing was ..... no commercials. That's correct, cable television was originally commercial free. Now we are not only inundated with commercials during the day but are subjected to the paid commercial advertising throughout the night. The worst commercials are from the pharmaceutical companies. Family viewing time is now rife with advertisements for male enhancement and genital herpes ads!

The quality of television programming has consistently diminished over the decades. Remarkably, folks are purchasing larger televisions .... to view what? I do agree with HH, however, that cable and dish have some fine offerings for the more discriminating. Were it not for EWTN (Catholic television programming) and TCM, I would simply disconnect the cable service. There are some good programs on FOOD, DISC, USA, NGEO and HIST, but these are few and far between.

Many years ago, when television was first introduced, it was suggested that it would become the tool of Satan. For those with children, take a good look at the programs and advertisements directed towards that audience. Gone are the wonderful cartoons like Looney Tunes now replaced with politically correct ones that promote left wing agendas. How ironic that many parents pay a hefty monthly charge for expanded stations and an additional charge to block some of those programs from their children.

Thank you both for your comments; I enjoyed them.

24 posted on 01/26/2008 6:07:27 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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The Pope loves youth - he was very close to some Church youth movements before becoming Pope. He gets it because he has seen the media and the effect it has had on youth and therfore adults in this generation.

He always seems to nail it - at least for me

Mel


25 posted on 01/26/2008 6:13:44 AM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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Two quick comments:

I didn't mean to imply that this is a 24/7 television household. It certainly isn't. Like NYer, my news is gathered mostly from other sources, like FR. For myself, television viewing is limited to weekends only.

NYer mentions EWTN, which did, (and may still), produce a program celebrating the life and works of G.K. Chesterton. I was, of course, familiar with Chesterton, but had never read any of his works. It was the program that inspired me to begin reading Chesterton, which helped enrich my life.

I truly don't believe it's the medium. It's the individual watching and the moral compass possessed.

Thanks for your comments.

26 posted on 01/26/2008 5:10:38 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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This discussion makes me think of Lot and his wife. "If there is only one good show left on cable TV can we spare it?" LOL

I miss EWTN but I don't miss it enough to pay for and wade through all that other nonsense. It's kind of like saying that you only get Playboy for the articles. One has to turn the pages to get to those "articles" and of course you paid the price for the whole magazine, and who profits? All that said, Alan Keyes has some excellent articles on his website that every American should read.

27 posted on 01/27/2008 4:12:27 AM PST by RichardMoore (Alan Keyes is the only statesman in the race for president)
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Chesterton is my favorite incorporeal writer. I have read and re-read most of his books. Alan Keyes is a modern day Chesterton. His website has 13 articles about leadership and citizenship in America and is excellent. The sovereignty of America rests with the people and that sovereignty has been usurped by the elites who control the money. And TV is one way that they have robbed us. The problem of our elections is that money is the measure of credibility


28 posted on 01/27/2008 4:22:25 AM PST by RichardMoore (Alan Keyes is the only statesman in the race for president)
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