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Two Women Die After Receiving Cervical Cancer Vaccine
FOX ^ | 01/2/508 | Unknown

Posted on 01/25/2008 10:12:14 AM PST by Froufrou

The death of two young women who received the cervical cancer vaccination is causing some in the U.K. to question a strategy that calls for hundreds of thousands of schoolgirls to receive the shot next fall, the Daily Mail reports.

The young women who died received the vaccination, marketed under the name Gardasil, in Germany and Austria, respectively. The European Medicines Agency has not released their ages.

The two deaths follow the deaths of three U.S. females, ages 12, 19 and 22, who were reported to have died days after receiving Gardasil, which protects against the human papillomavirus — believed to be the leading cause of cervical cancer — was administered.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration recently reported that 28 women miscarried after receiving the vaccine.

Neither U.S. nor European health officials have directly linked the deaths or miscarriages to Gardasil. The FDA has said there is no reason to reexamine approval of the drug.

A spokesman for Merck, maker of Gardasil, told the Daily Mail there were no plans to change the company's recommendation on use of the vaccine.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: gardasil; health; hpvvaccine; moralabsolutes
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1 posted on 01/25/2008 10:12:15 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

What was the cause of death?


2 posted on 01/25/2008 10:14:53 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Froufrou
FWIW, from this past October...

Judicial Watch Uncovers New FDA Records Detailing Deaths in 1,824 Adverse Reaction Reports Related to HPV Vaccine

3 posted on 01/25/2008 10:15:00 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Froufrou
The FDA has said there is no reason to reexamine approval of the drug. A spokesman for Merck, maker of Gardasil, told the Daily Mail there were no plans to change the company's recommendation on use of the vaccine.

This is a shocking story...Did these girls have some type of life-threatening disease?

4 posted on 01/25/2008 10:15:14 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Froufrou
Ah, yes. The old "correlation vs. causation" problem, once again. It could have been that each of these girls died soon after eating pickles, too.
5 posted on 01/25/2008 10:15:22 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
According to this...

Europe reports two Gardasil deaths, but confirms benefits

....the deaths so far have been unexplained.

6 posted on 01/25/2008 10:16:34 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Froufrou

O.K., Texas, since Governor Perry signed legislation mandating these vaccines to all school girls, WHAT NOW?


7 posted on 01/25/2008 10:17:21 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: Froufrou

Doesn’t take long for the FDA/pharma staffers to show up, does it?


8 posted on 01/25/2008 10:18:01 AM PST by Seruzawa
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To: Froufrou
Just for reference, what is the natural complication & death rate from other vaccines?
9 posted on 01/25/2008 10:18:27 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“O.K., Texas, since Governor Perry signed legislation mandating these vaccines to all school girls, WHAT NOW?”

Get an exemption. One can be best obtained using religious beliefs exemption...doesn’t have to be any particular denomination.


10 posted on 01/25/2008 10:19:53 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
“The FDA has said there is no reason to reexamine approval of the drug.”

FDA in pocket of Big Pharma? I’m shocked I tell you, shocked!

11 posted on 01/25/2008 10:21:36 AM PST by TCats
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I thought he reversed the mandatory thing. I could be mistaken though.


12 posted on 01/25/2008 10:22:00 AM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: r9etb

Well if they weren’t, um, ‘eating’ pickles they wouldn’t need the vaccine in the first place. Damn those pickles.


13 posted on 01/25/2008 10:22:28 AM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: mewzilla
Health Officials Report Pain, Fainting Among Girls Receiving Merck's HPV Vaccine Gardasil
14 posted on 01/25/2008 10:22:51 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: r9etb

Sadly I know a family who’s otherwise healthy child died recently.. he seemed sick with the flu.. he died in his bed. He had not had any medications or trials or shots... but if he had a story like this would have appeared.

Based soley on the facts of this article these women died within days of getting the vaccine, but nothing else is said... the implication is the vaccine is at fault, the reality could be anything based on the wording of this article.. could have all died in car wrecks.


15 posted on 01/25/2008 10:22:55 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: ECM

D’oh!


16 posted on 01/25/2008 10:22:55 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Froufrou

No one here has yet mentioned that the most common vector of contacting HPV is through sexual activity. Gardasil is intended as an STD vaccine.

It is just another way for the culture to tell our children, sexual activity is safe at any age.


17 posted on 01/25/2008 10:23:00 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: HamiltonJay

Precisely.


18 posted on 01/25/2008 10:23:39 AM PST by r9etb
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To: TXBubba
Mentions VA, the story's subject, and TX....

Bill would push back mandatory HPV vaccinations till 2010

19 posted on 01/25/2008 10:25:06 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

For Texas...forms can be downloaded:

http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/texas.htm

NOTE: The TDH state affidavit form can also be used to opt-out of Gardasil HPV vaccine.

Frequently Asked Questions Concerning the Conscientious Exemption
Sample letter to send for state form in pdf...
(.pdf) http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/immunize/docs/sample_letter.pdf
Another pdf sample letter...
(.pdf) http://www.neisd.net/health/documents/SAMPLE_LETTER_Reason.pdf
Sample letter to send for state form in Microsoft Word...
(.doc) http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/immunize/docs/sample_letter.doc

El Paso Independent School district’s s religious exemption form for download
*IMMUNIZATION AFFIDAVIT RELIGIOUS CONFLICT
(.pdf) http://www.episd.org/Schools/healthservices/immaffrelpg1.pdf
El Paso Independent School district’s religious exemption form in Spanish
*DECLARACIÓN JURADA DE INMUNIZACIÓN-CONFLICTO RELIGIOSO
(.pdf) http://www.episd.org/Schools/healthservices/immaffrelpg2.pdf

Appendix A - Forms for School Spinal Screening
AFFIDAVIT OF RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION - On Page 9
DECLARACIÓN JURADA DE EXONERACIÓN RELIGIOSA - On Page 10
(.pdf) http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/spinal/pdf/apndxa.pdf

Opt-Outs:

STUDENT OPT-OUT NOTICE regarding the instruction of sexuality to children:
STUDENT OPT-OUT NOTICE Valid in all 50 states
(.pdf) http://www.ccv.org/images/StudentOptOutNotice.PDF
(.pdf) http://www.catholiccitizens.org/content/img/f26422/opt%20out%20notice.pdf
(.html) http://www.ccv.org/images/StudentOptOutNotice.htm
Entire packet...
(.doc) http://www.mfc.org/respect/Website/Links%20on%20Web%20Page/Opt-Out%20Packet.doc


20 posted on 01/25/2008 10:25:17 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Froufrou
Human papillomavirus is an STD. Drug companies make a lot of money selling the vaccination.

To suggest teaching abstinence to stop the spread of STD’s is greatly frowned on by the liberal establishment.

21 posted on 01/25/2008 10:25:27 AM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Refuse! Then, teach your daughters about monogamous, marital sex. If they follow this advice they will never need Guardicil. The vaccine is for a sexually transmitted disease that leads to cervical cancer.


22 posted on 01/25/2008 10:27:10 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Froufrou
As with any medication the benefits must be weighed against the risk. Smallpox vaccines were discontinued because more were dying from the vaccine than from the disease. I'm sure there are women out there who fit the category of benefits out weighing the risk. In a perfect world it would be used on the most at risk population until we have a better history. Unfortunately with patent laws as they are Merek needs to make the profit now, before the patent expires.
23 posted on 01/25/2008 10:27:18 AM PST by millerph
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To: Froufrou
As with any medication the benefits must be weighed against the risk. Smallpox vaccines were discontinued because more were dying from the vaccine than from the disease. I'm sure there are women out there who fit the category of benefits out weighing the risk. In a perfect world it would be used on the most at risk population until we have a better history. Unfortunately with patent laws as they are Merek needs to make the profit now, before the patent expires.
24 posted on 01/25/2008 10:27:20 AM PST by millerph
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To: mewzilla

-—way back when, kids used to have those symptoms from DPT and smallpox immunizations—


25 posted on 01/25/2008 10:28:44 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: mewzilla
According to health officials, about 230 cases of vaccine-related fainting among girls were reported between 2005 and July 2007.

So little information .... Out of how many doses administered? And how does this compare to, say, fainting rates among girls who receive flu vaccinations? Has it been established that the vaccine caused the fainting? Or could something like anxiety about the vaccine (or shots in general) be to blame?

There are few things so capable of causing stupid reactions as a statistic presented without context.

Maybe the vaccine really is bad for some folks ... but if you're gonna claim it, you've got to prove it.

26 posted on 01/25/2008 10:28:55 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Froufrou
It is my understanding that the reason they are recommending it for very young girls is not because they believe it is prior to sexual exposure but because of severe side effects on more mature women. If true it is reason enough to not allow young women be required to have it until in depth and intense investigation. There seems to be a rush to make this vaccination a standard procedure, why is that? Cervical cancer is not a nice thing, but it is treatable and has a high degree of successful eradication when treated early enough. I most certainly would not allow it to be injected into my young daughter, too much chance that the promotion is motivated by $$$ rather than by protection.
27 posted on 01/25/2008 10:29:28 AM PST by pepperdog
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To: r9etb; rellimpank

I have one word: Vioxx.


28 posted on 01/25/2008 10:30:03 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: GloriaJane
To suggest teaching abstinence to stop the spread of STD’s is greatly frowned on by the liberal establishment.

And yet ... suppose some nice, abstinent girl gets married to a nice boy who, nevertheless, has contracted HPV. Do you suggest she not get vaccinated, because she's abstinent?

29 posted on 01/25/2008 10:30:25 AM PST by r9etb
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To: mewzilla
I have one word: Vioxx.

And I have one word: tomato.

Tomatoes were at one time considered to be poisonous. At other times, they were frowned upon because they were thought to cause impure sexual desire in people who ate them.

Neither Vioxx nor Tomatoes have any damned thing to do with this vaccine, and whether it's a) safe or b) effective.

30 posted on 01/25/2008 10:32:32 AM PST by r9etb
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To: GloriaJane

“Human papillomavirus is an STD. Drug companies make a lot of money selling the vaccination.”
Correct. Merck is desperate for cash.

“To suggest teaching abstinence to stop the spread of STD’s is greatly frowned on by the liberal establishment.”

Right again.


31 posted on 01/25/2008 10:33:39 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: mewzilla

—yeah—that’s the one,IIRC, my mother can’t get anymore because half a dozen or so people had strokes and a bunch of lawyers made a mint-—


32 posted on 01/25/2008 10:33:48 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: r9etb

No, I would suggest that her new husband go to his doctor and have the small flat warts removed. Problem solved. No more human papillomavirus!


33 posted on 01/25/2008 10:34:28 AM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: goodwithagun
If they follow this advice they will never need Guardicil.

Never is an awfully big word. Hint: are you gonna bet your daughter's health on the hope that your future son-in-law never messed around?

Your decision, obviously: but remember that it takes two to tango. You could consider in the sense of innoculating your daughter against her future husband's past.

34 posted on 01/25/2008 10:35:32 AM PST by r9etb
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To: rellimpank
—yeah—that’s the one,IIRC, my mother can’t get anymore because half a dozen or so people had strokes and a bunch of lawyers made a mint-—

And if the pharma company had engaged in some full dislclosure, maybe that option wouldn't have been foreclosed to the folks who still wanted to use it. People can have a nasty reaction to being used as guinea pigs.

35 posted on 01/25/2008 10:38:45 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: r9etb
Neither Vioxx nor Tomatoes have any damned thing to do with this vaccine, and whether it's a) safe or b) effective.

I was making a point about approval not necessarily guaranteeing safety and/or efficacy.

36 posted on 01/25/2008 10:39:57 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: r9etb

Hopefully I will do a good enough job and she will ask her husband to have a physical, if he had previous relationships. Why should I risk my daughter’s health on questionable practices? The point is, the vaccine is part of the sex-at-any-age culture.


37 posted on 01/25/2008 10:40:07 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: mewzilla
Oh, my gosh! Thank you so much for that link.

They were trying to push this vaccine on my 12 year old daughter prior to entering 7th grade this year. I knew more about the vaccine than the nurse practitioner and promptly refused this vaccine until more information was known about possible side effects.

Death is certainly a MAJOR side affect!

38 posted on 01/25/2008 10:40:17 AM PST by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: poobear
Whoa, there :) I DON'T know that death is a side effect. Heck, I don't think anyone knows what's going on yet. I just think that the folks who ran out and got this for their kids may be having second thoughts now. And I wouldn't blame them.
39 posted on 01/25/2008 10:42:16 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I hope it wasnt cervical cancer. That would mean that the shot doesnt work......

...sorry.

40 posted on 01/25/2008 10:42:44 AM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: r9etb

“And yet ... suppose some nice, abstinent girl gets married to a nice boy who, nevertheless, has contracted HPV. Do you suggest she not get vaccinated, because she’s abstinent?”

While it is believed that some protection may be offered by Gardasil relevent to some HPV (4 - there are over 40 HPV’s known), no guarantee has ever been made regarding full immunity of contraction of one of these 4 type-specific HPV’s.

The FDA’s studies indicate that these vaccine may INCREASE a female’s risk of cervical disease if they already have one of the 4 HPV’s at the time of injection.


41 posted on 01/25/2008 10:44:36 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: GloriaJane

Research reveals the HPV strains that causes warts is not the strains that could cause Cervical Cancer.


42 posted on 01/25/2008 10:47:50 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: Froufrou
I've been seeing the TV ad pushing for this vaccine among young women. This vaccine doesn't guard against all forms of cervical cancer, only the kind that can be contracted as a result of a virus that results from early sexual activity with multiple partners.

The folks pushing this are encouraging girls to get a vaccine that will make it less of a risk for them, if they want to have sex all they want. They don't want the girls to think about all the other risks of sexual activity; STDs, pregnancy, AIDS. What's interesting, is that they're using the mothers of these girls to encourage their daughters, because at their age, the mothers ARE worried about cancer, not the problems associated with sexual activity.

43 posted on 01/25/2008 10:48:03 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: mewzilla; r9etb; rellimpank; pepperdog; GloriaJane

Exactly. Some vaccinations have been mandated all my life, for 55 years. Why haven’t they had problems?

It seems to be the newer vaccines that have more risk. I base this comment on nvic.org information.


44 posted on 01/25/2008 10:49:31 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: poobear

I also heard that 80% (!!) of women have HPV by the age of 50.

WOW - pretty prevalent...


45 posted on 01/25/2008 10:50:00 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: Froufrou

My daughter was VERY sick for a week after getting her flu vaccine and my son received the chicken pox vaccine and contracted chicken pox 3 years later!


46 posted on 01/25/2008 10:52:01 AM PST by too much time (Were any educrats proficient at math in high school?)
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To: SuziQ; mewzilla

Great points you have made! The bigger picture that I find scary is that years back the government was ‘good’ for defeating polio whereas now it’s come down to ‘what the government is forcing upon us’ and I don’t like that.


47 posted on 01/25/2008 10:52:50 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
80%. Guess our family is lucky then.

To the young girls out there, don’t have sex with warted males. Better yet, don’t have sex... never mind.

Remember when they would test you for venereal diseases before issuing a marriage license? Or was that just for syphilis?

48 posted on 01/25/2008 10:55:33 AM PST by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: Froufrou
Two Women Die After Receiving Cervical Cancer Vaccine

It's not a cancer vaccine, moron reporter/headline writer. It's a vaccine against an STD.

49 posted on 01/25/2008 10:55:33 AM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: GloriaJane
No, I would suggest that her new husband go to his doctor and have the small flat warts removed. Problem solved. No more human papillomavirus!

Nope. He'd still be a carrier.

50 posted on 01/25/2008 10:57:24 AM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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