[jimtorr]

The problem isn’t the Church people, but the Church leadership. I don’t mean the pastors or the local boards, but the people sent to conventions, and the frequently very liberal people elected by the conventions to run the regional and the national organizations.

Church politics are very similar to national politics. Not enough people pay attention to what is actually going on day-to-day. If they did, they would throw out most of the bureaucrats.

[Hoosiersailor]

Yeah you are right. I really don't pay attention the politics side. Since I joined the military, I realized I really had no idea how most things were. The last few years I’ve definitely learned alot about politics run/ruin things.

[Wuli]

“The problem isn’t the Church people, but the Church leadership. I don’t mean the pastors or the local boards, but the people sent to conventions, and the frequently very liberal people elected by the conventions to run the regional and the national organizations.”

this is where politics and political activism works, where saving souls is pas see but advocating to improve govt services/entitlements/protected statuses is paramount

the largest single category of programs, by dollar amount, run by the women’s division of the umc is race/gender political advocacy

[redstateconfidential]

Then the people of the church bear the responsibility of allowing these Heretical teachers into positions of power, and to present the voice and direction of the church.