Posted on 01/26/2008 11:09:25 PM PST by blam
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I want a pesticide vault.
I canât remember which as I watch both a lot but either the History Channel or the National Geographic channel just recently had a one hour program about this place and the why and whats. Very interesting show.
Only Turd world seeds need apply?
Thanks for posting this, Blam.
I’m often accused of being a “Crunchy Con” because while I’m totally Conservative, I’m also considered by some to be kind of a “Hippie” because I keep an organic garden and orchard on my farm, live simply, work close to home in a sector that I LOVE (Garden Center), etc. I also have seven years of working for The Seed Savers Exchange under my belt. Pretty good for a Conservative, wouldn’t you say? LOL! SSE keeps a seed vault in IA, as well. I think there’s a government seed vault in CO, too.
BUT...this is VERY serious, FRiends. When the seeds are gone, so is the FOOD.
Kinda alarmed here.
"All the Time in the World." :)
“Kinda alarmed here.”
At me, or the seed vaults? ;)
That's funny, I was thinking of something similar. In my scenario, it's a hungry future Magellan who stumbles across the cave and finds a nice snack to go with his fish dinner.
Better add some pictographic instructions/explanations, too.
LOL.
I remember an incident some decades when we sent seed grain to India (I think) and hunger was so bad there that they ate the seeds...problem was, the seeds had already been coated with a poison. Many died.
This is all being done so that the surviving New World Order elitists will be able to eat old fashioned home grown tomatoes.
A few years back my Eco-SIL (her HEART is in the right place, her BRAIN is elsewhere) tried to talk our FIL into sending a goat to a Third World country or some such thing. I think it’s called “The Heifer Project?”
We all pool our money at Christmas and do something “charitable” and the family takes a vote on where to send our cash, but Dad has the final say in it.
His tirade on “they’ll just EAT it, they don’t know what to DO to CREATE food for themselves, they’ll just kill the Golden Goose, etc.” is now our Christmastime mantra. ;)
He DOES have a point. I’m a “Teach a man to fish,” Gal, myself.
But, when you’re starving due to tin-pot dictators taking the cream, where does your thinking lie?
Democracy for all! No matter how cr@ppy it may seem at times. No one is “starving” in the Good Old USofA, that’s for sure. Democracy for all! Seeds for all! :)
What I wanna know is if I have a bag of beans, say like pinto beans or red beans in my pantry, if I soak a handful in the spring and throw them in the ground, will I get like, you know, bean PLANTS?
I mean I can buy a one pound bag of beans for about the same as a paltry seed packet that has 17 bean seeds.
Just wonderin.
Gardening PING!
Great find, blam!!!!
Usually. Not many will sprout as compared to the seed packet though.
Hope they include some beer recipes.
“What I wanna know is if I have a bag of beans, say like pinto beans or red beans in my pantry, if I soak a handful in the spring and throw them in the ground, will I get like, you know, bean PLANTS?”
Yes, you will. But not all will germinate (sprout) due to age and other factors. Food beans are handled differently than beans for sewing in the following season. Bean seeds lose their germination rate quickly. The larger the seed, the shorter its shelf-life. (For example, lettuce and radish seed are really small...they have a longer “viability” than do a bean seed or a corn kernel seed. The smaller the seed, the longer it “lasts.”)
If you’ve ever grown beans for the dry beans (seeds) you need ACRES to fill that bag-o-beans that you buy for $1 at The Dollar Store. An average garden plot won’t produce the quantity needed unless you have a 1/4 acre or so to devote only to dry beans. Each pod produces 4-5 seeds (beans.) Each plant produces 12-20 or so pods holding 4-5 bean seeds. You do the math...and don’t get me started on what a PITA it is to harvest and shell them. How dried beans EVER became the food staple of starving, Third World countries is beyond me. The labor ALONE in ‘beans and rice’ boggles the mind.
Learn to hunt, Dudes! ;)
And then, as another consideration, some of your bagged beans may be bush beans and some may be pole beans. Pole beans are MUCH more productive and you can grow a lot more on less land as they grow UP with proper supports.
If you’re really willing to try growing drying beans this upcoming season, I’d say...don’t do it! No matter WHAT your politics, hit The Dollar Store and buy yourself a bag-o-beans for a dollar.
Believe me, I’ve done many test plots for drying beans over the years...it’s a fruitless effort. And I’m STILL hungry at the end of the day. I just don’t GET it!
It will work, but the percentage that will actually germinate is low. You will get near 100% with a seed packet. Even saving packet seeds from year-to-year you will get a drop off, unless you keep them under tightly controlled conditions. I have kept them several years in a vacuum sealed jar in the freezer.
Thanks for the ping. Good article.
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