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Activism: Retiring the N-word
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Posted on 01/27/2008 4:46:40 AM PST by connell

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To: sirchtruth

I’m sorry that you think our Constitutionally guaranteed free-speech rights prohibit individuals or groups from attempting to influence the behavior of others. (”Behavior” includes speech, btw.) This insane expansion of the meaning of “rights” is one of the big problems we have in our country today.

You have a nice day!


41 posted on 01/27/2008 6:08:37 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Gently alluding to the indisputably obvious is not gloating." ~Richard John Neuhaus)
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To: connell

whites should assuage their inherent imperfections (and the resulting heavy heart) through a relationship with God, not by kow-towing to a politically correct (i.e. liberal) agenda. This is useless, empty, fluff, and will not solve a thing.

I have a list of 489 greater problems this country faces, and this didn’t make the list. Oh, but it will give lefties and their fellow-travelers (even if they call themselves conservatives) a chance to get apoplectic and to beat their breasts in (false) indignation.


42 posted on 01/27/2008 6:10:03 AM PST by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: connell

I agree with your points, connell. However, I think that some of the comments here demonstrate that many people believe they have the “right” to engage in uncivil speech, but that nobody else has the “right” to ask them to use better manners.

This leaves us with situations such as you face at a ball game, where if you politely asked the people cursing to stop, all you’d get is more profanity and possibly a physical assault.


43 posted on 01/27/2008 6:12:23 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Gently alluding to the indisputably obvious is not gloating." ~Richard John Neuhaus)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
LOL, I remember having lunch in a nice Dallas restaurant on Sunday after church, sometime in the 70s, when a little boy at the next table began, in his piping "Yankee kid" voice, reciting "eenie meenie" etc. When he got to "n..." his mamma grabbed at him and said "How many times do I have to tell you, it's 'catch a tiger by the toe!"
44 posted on 01/27/2008 6:12:40 AM PST by 19th LA Inf
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To: connell

You’re being disingenuous by equating N*gger with the coarsening of our public language.


45 posted on 01/27/2008 6:13:42 AM PST by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: TomGuy
Watch the similar methods being used against sports teams that use Native American tribal names, etc..

Exactly, you're making my point better than I can. We can all agree a word is offensive, but that's where decorum, morales, values, and responsiblity have to take over witin a person. A person needs to decide to deem a word not worthy of useage and act accordly, but never be discouraged from exercising their right to free speech.

Remember, with free speech comes responsibility. If my tagline ever should be highlighted, now is the time.

46 posted on 01/27/2008 6:13:54 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: tiger-one

No an neither is HO HO Ho


47 posted on 01/27/2008 6:16:06 AM PST by jrd
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To: connell

I don’t know what the N-word is. Nappy-headed?


48 posted on 01/27/2008 6:20:37 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: Tax-chick
I think that some of the comments here demonstrate that many people believe they have the “right” to engage in uncivil speech, but that nobody else has the “right” to ask them to use better manners.

That's CRAP!!! It's not about whether or not a person should or shouldn't, it's recognizing what the country was founded on. Free speech does not dictate which words you free to use, or what manners are deemed appropriate when using certain words does it?

If you can't understand the basis of the first admendment, you need to take a coarse in civil rights.

49 posted on 01/27/2008 6:22:01 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: humblegunner
Is he qualified to take care of it? What are the values of Julio Morales?

He is just a grass cutter.

50 posted on 01/27/2008 6:22:17 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: sirchtruth

We seem to have no common ground. Have a Guinness and a nice day!


51 posted on 01/27/2008 6:25:56 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Gently alluding to the indisputably obvious is not gloating." ~Richard John Neuhaus)
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To: Godebert
The organization is race-based....and therefore inherently racist. How about a petition to disband all race-based committees and organizations.

Take it up with the Congressional White Caucus.

What's that you say? There is no Congressional White Caucus?

52 posted on 01/27/2008 6:26:44 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: sirchtruth

Isn’t this kind of like Congress going out and ‘officially’ renaming French Fries ‘Freedom Fries’ because France dissed us.
If someone ran a business and the supposed board members were renaming objects, discussing steroids and holding hearings so they could kow-tow with the ‘self appointed’ elite, WE would SHUT IT DOWN as being an unproductive sink hole where money was pumped into it to feed it....
That is like they keep claiming minorities and women get approx 25 or so % less than white males.
As a business owner, I would be foolish to not hire ALL women and minorities and put that extra money in my pocket.


53 posted on 01/27/2008 6:28:08 AM PST by xrmusn
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To: Tax-chick
I’m sorry that you think our Constitutionally guaranteed free-speech rights prohibit individuals or groups from attempting to influence the behavior of others. (”Behavior” includes speech, btw.) This insane expansion of the meaning of “rights” is one of the big problems we have in our country today.

Where do I intone any of your points in my comments? I agree with the attempts of individuals or groups to influence behavior. What I don't agree with is deception by liberal, socialistic agenda's to coerce others into thinking they have to give up their free speech rights because others may find some words offensive. Also there is a huge problem with these same liberal activist changing the syntax and meanings of certain words in society.

GAY = Alternative Lifestyle. Abortion = Choice. Those are two I can think of immediately. Now you tell me, whether or not it's crucial to "influence" the use these words when they offend me. How is this different from the backasswards agendize push of the socialist, liberal attempts to squelch certain speech?

54 posted on 01/27/2008 6:35:46 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: connell

So, are you hosting the Mark Twain book burning?


55 posted on 01/27/2008 7:17:43 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (<I>)
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To: tiger-one

Very good point, word meaning changes over time. When I was a teenager we would use the f-word, amongst ourselves, for shock value. Never would you hear a girl use that word.


56 posted on 01/27/2008 7:27:07 AM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: Tax-chick
However, I think that some of the comments here demonstrate that many people believe they have the “right” to engage in uncivil speech, but that nobody else has the “right” to ask them to use better manners.

Seemingly. I always marvel at how the left says anything it wants, but then when we conservatives speak up against them, they complain that we are taking away their rights to speech. This scenario seems similar. More's the (ironic) pity.
57 posted on 01/27/2008 8:20:46 AM PST by connell (I will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: connell

It is ironic. Yes, people have a legal right to use offensive terms toward others. And people have a right to ask others not to use offensive terms. What’s so confusing about that?

If one wants to make an argument that an individual or an organized group shouldn’t attempt to influence others’ speech ... well, okay, make the argument. But it has nothing to do with anyone’s Constitutional rights.


58 posted on 01/27/2008 9:03:23 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Gently alluding to the indisputably obvious is not gloating." ~Richard John Neuhaus)
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To: gondramB
"N-ggers" (people who annoy you).

And you say the answer is 'N..A..GGERS'?? Dang!

I wuz pretty sure it was 'N..U..GGERS'.

I had an uncle that thought it was great fun to give me a nuggie at every opportunity. That was DAMNED annoying.

59 posted on 01/27/2008 9:15:19 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost

:)


60 posted on 01/27/2008 9:30:20 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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