I don't wanna know.
Posted on 01/27/2008 11:41:12 AM PST by satan
American history is not all just glory and pride LETTER TO THE EDITOR
Potomac News Sunday, January 27, 2008
Many believe that American history is all about glory and pride, but the government has to sugarcoat and delete the shameful events out of our children's history books for that to be believable. But just because it's not in their biased schoolbooks doesn't mean it didn't happen. Slavery has been a necessity since America was founded. Africans were stolen from their homes and forced to work for free. Today, according to U.S. law, slavery is abolished, but those jobs still need to be filled and modern day slavery continues. Hispanics are willing to fill that void, but many refuse to recognize their hard work. Most of those fruits you eat have to be handpicked, so wash it well because an illegal Mexican most likely picked it.
I understand not everybody sees the things I do, since many people block out the truth. American history is not up to anybody to believe it for it to be true. Some don't believe that Americans invaded Mexican land. The Mexican government invited Americans to settle in Texas. Many appreciated the opportunity, while others took Mexico's kindness for weakness and resorted to violence. They ask to remember the Alamo, but remember that Mexico won that battle.
The U.S. took Mexican land (modern day California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah and Wyoming) and gave Mexico another low blow. Without the Compromise of 1850, the U.S. wouldn't be half of what it is today.
To get statistics correct, first figure out how many "illegals" receive services. Even the most educated guesses from Harvard are still only estimates. Most illegal immigrants aren't risking leaving their families and lives to come be unemployed. Nothing is handed to us and refusing to give "illegals" services just makes them have to work harder. Most illegal immigrants ask for nothing else than a chance to work.
I ask how they say Mexicans don't make the U.S. money, since tax is deducted from their paychecks, too. The U.S. government still receives that money. Many Americans have seized the opportunity and have made countless dollars by choosing Mexican labor.
We prefer to give the lazy American living off unemployment checks that doesn't file taxes preference over a hard working, tax paying illegal. It's like being against abortion, but being in favor of the death penalty. That's your hypocritical logic, Mr. Lauer, and I do not agree with you, either.
RUBEN PINEDA
Manassas, Virginia
There’s an exit to Mianus, CT going down I-95.
I laugh every time I see it.
There you go, Ruben. I did the reasoning for you that you didn't want to do.
I don't wanna know.
You forgot the barf alert
Ruben’s letter is in response to this:
“This is in response to Ruben Pineda’s letter about Mexicans on Jan. 12. I cannot but disagree with his logic (and his history). Illegal Mexican’s are not helpful for the economy. A recent Harvard study said illegal immigrants cost the state of Arizona $1.4 billion in revenue last year! Can you imagine the number for all the rest of the states? Likely astronomical!
Breaking the law is breaking the law. If you don’t have permission to be here you should not be here. I’m curious why this is so hard for some people to grasp this simple concept?
JOSH LAUER
LOL!
"There, Gen Jackson! Look at all of them Mexicans coming over that Stonewall!!!
An international flight over the Atlantic had engine problems, and the matter was so serious the pilot dropped to 10K feet and ordered that all loose items be pitched out the door.
They gained some altitude but then lost another engine. The pilot came back, explained that they had tossed everything and that if they didn’t `lose more weight’ they were going into the drink.
The passengers knew immediately what he meant, and a Brit stood up, went to the door, said “God Save the Queen!” and jumped. They gained a lttle altitude, but a few minutes later the captain informed them they were again descending.
Finally a Frenchman stood up, went to the door, yelled, “Viva La France!” and jumped.
They could see the cliffs but were falling again, and the captain’s voice on the intercom said, “One more brave sacrifice should get us safely on the landing strip.
A Texan immediately jumped up, collared a Mexican & tossed him out the door while shouting, “Remember the Alamo!”
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“Africans were stolen from their homes and forced to work for free...”
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Black Africans were sold into slavery by other black Africans. It is how one dealt with opposing tribes back then. Today, they just brutally slaughter each other.
And Mexico never “owned” anything in the far west. They were no more entitled to land occupied by Indians than we were entitled. We fought a war with Mexico over land and then in addition we paid for it.
Please note: by the time of Fort James/James Town in Virginia, and of the Pilgrims landing in Massachusetts Bay, Spain had established a huge empire through out central Mexico, Central America, nothern South America, and all of the Caribbean Sea areas. They governed by a highly centralized form of government using Royal Governors, a form of control not much different than the highly-centralized indigenous governments they replaced.
By the time of our Revolution against the British, huge stone Cathedrals and government structures had been or were being built throughout those areas. They, as an established empire, were much further along in infrastructure and power consolidation than the United States.
The reason we today are leaders in finance, technology, agriculture, and world politics, is because we haven’t in the past been dragged down by centralized government AND the backwards-looking attitudes of resentful indigenous populations.
I ask how they say Mexicans don’t make the U.S. money, since tax is deducted from their paychecks, too. The U.S. government still receives that money. Many Americans have seized the opportunity and have made countless dollars by choosing Mexican labor.
We prefer to give the lazy American living off unemployment checks that doesn’t file taxes preference over a hard working, tax paying illegal. It’s like being against abortion, but being in favor of the death penalty. That’s your hypocritical logic, Mr. Lauer, and I do not agree with you, either.
RUBEN PINEDA
Let Me Guess
Senor Pineda is an illegal trying to justify his law breaking existence here in the despicable slave owning United States.
He makes some statements about paying taxes but forgets to add that many emergency rooms and hospitals along the border are going broke trying to treat the uninsured illegals.
The state of California can no longer ignore the obvious that illegals are about to sink the the state in red ink.
I believe we need a workable program that allows Mexican workers to come and pick fruit and other jobs many Americans can not or will not do but at the same time they must return to their home country to renew their work permit.
Those companies and farmers should be required to furnish a medical plan,term life insurance, valid wage and pay taxes while the worker is here in the United States.
Any worker over staying his or her permit permit without legal permission would be deported and never allowed to came back and work on a temporary basis.
We would also do away with anchor babies and families accompanying the worker.
Just the opinion of a red state wannabe.
Incorrect. In the early years of the Virginia Colony, indentured servants (not slaves) were used. And, New England colonies did not make significant use of slaves. Lastly, Africans were usually stolen from their homes by...other Africans.
Most of those fruits you eat have to be handpicked, so wash it well because an illegal Mexican most likely picked it.
What exactly is the author insinuating here?
The U.S. took Mexican land (modern day California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah and Wyoming) and gave Mexico another low blow. Without the Compromise of 1850, the U.S. wouldn't be half of what it is today.
The reason that the United States is successful is due to education and a strong belief in the rule of law. Illegals piss all over the second belief in the name of "humanity." And, as the son of two legal immigrants who struggled here to scratch out a living, the arrogance of Mexican illegals is appalling and repugnant to me.
We prefer to give the lazy American living off unemployment checks that doesn't file taxes preference over a hard working, tax paying illegal.
The ends do not justify the means.
It's like being against abortion, but being in favor of the death penalty.
There is a major difference between abortion and the death penalty. Abortion involves terminating the innocent and denying them the ability to choose life. The death penalty is given to those who choose to violate the law and trample upon another's rights to life, liberty, and property.
Compromise of 1850 had nothing at all to do with the boundaries of the US. It involved only internal US sectional compromises over slavery and other issues.
In case you did not hear it, Ruben, the U.S. paid $15M to the Mexican government for what you claim to be ‘your land’ under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo after defeating your army. Go back to your own country and stop draining our economy, por favor.
I’M TIRED OF PRESSING “1”!
Or is it something more sinister, are illegals Americas "Jews" from 20-30's Germany?
Rueben has no clue about the rule of law, because there is no rule of law in Mexico. If he had any statistics about illegals using of publicly funded services, he would have included them. And finally, when the U.S. took over the Southwest, Texas and California, there were fewer than 75,000 Mexicans living in the entire area, and more likely, fewer than 50,000. There are probably that many Mexicans in Prince William County, Va. now. The old joke goes that the gringos stole the part of Mexico with all the good roads, schools and hospitals. Does anyone, including this pendejo, really believe that the Southwest, Texas and California would be anything other than a huge, disfunctional, Mexican hell hole, a la Tijuana, if it still belonged to Mexico?
Aren't illegals usually paid under the table? Since when do employers take tax withholding from under the table pay?
Also- the United States wasn't this hemisphere's 500 lb. military gorilla in the 1840s, as it is today.
Mexico was.
For my own part, I would just like to know at what point in the last few years did it suddenly become accepted understanding that the U.S. economy could not survive without “cheap labor?”
I believe Dr. Sowell made it clear in one of his books that economies (from ancient times to the present) that depend on “cheap labor” whether from slaves, serfs, lower castes, sharecroppers and chain gangs, etc. tend to be stagnant and backward.
The American South did not really come into it’s own economically until after the Civil Rights Era.
We native born Virginians had illegal immigrant problems in Manassas back in 1861 and 1862. With a little help from our friends we were able to expell them all for a time.
In addition, the U.S. gave back all of the now Mexican territory that it had gained during the war.
I would say that Mexico came out of the loss pretty well a winner. That is even though during the succeeding century and a half it became a less than third world country.
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