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Serbia marks Holocaust Remembrance Day
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Posted on 01/27/2008 2:00:35 PM PST by kronos77

Today, Serbia, along with the rest of the world, remembers the victims of the Second World War Holocaust.

The central commemoration was held today at the site of the former Nazi camp of Topovske Šupe in Belgrade.

President Boris Tadić took part in the ceremonies at the memorial park, which marks the location that saw around 5,000 of Serbia's Jews and Romas transported to execution.

"We will never accept the destruction of others simply because they are different, because they belong to another ethnic, religious or political group. We condemn intolerance, we do not accept prejudice and hatred which aims to justify and deepen these differences, to separate us," Tadić said.

Describing the Holocaust, which resulted in the murder of some six million European Jews, as the biggest concentration of evil and martyrdom, the president said the Jewish and other communities in Serbia must always feel equal to the majority population.

"We reject any denial of the Holocaust. Count on us, your fellow citizens and neighbors to remember, to know that this memory serves to recognize a future with a better and more humane world," Tadić said during the ceremonies.

Speaking at the same gathering, the chairman of the Serbian Jewish Community, Aleksandar Nećak, pointed out that the Jewish people will never again allow the Second World War suffering to repeat itself.

"Serbia too paid a huge price in the Second World War. Therefore, neo-Nazism and anti-Semitism do not suit a democratic Serbia. I am calling on Serbians to prevent the strengthening of racism and anti-Semitism," Nećak said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: holocaust; holokaust; remember; serbia
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1 posted on 01/27/2008 2:00:37 PM PST by kronos77
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2 posted on 01/27/2008 2:01:37 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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Thanks to Clinton and Bush we have a lot of ground to make up concerning treatment of Serbia. We should immediately reverse ourselves on independence of Kosovo.


3 posted on 01/27/2008 2:16:53 PM PST by SatinDoll (Fredhead and proud of it!)
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To: SatinDoll

During the Kosovo air strikes, McCain was hitting the talk show circuit defending Clinton bombing the Serbs. I am rather embarrassed by that part of American history. McCain must be stopped.


4 posted on 01/27/2008 2:22:46 PM PST by Fast Ed97 (Trad Catholic supporting a Mormon for Prez!)
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To: Fast Ed97

Looks like Romney is the only choice. Only problem, he’s unpredictable. As a pro-business candidate he may not be as supporting of the “little people” as say a Hunter or Thompson administration.

The RNC seems to be filled with pro-big government, big agribusiness, and globalization supporters. None of which seems to care much for the average U.S. citizen.


5 posted on 01/27/2008 3:54:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (Fredhead and proud of it!)
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To: kronos77

Serbia basically declared war on Hitler and held him for six months and sent him into Russia in the dead of winter rather than on schedule and Serbs paid a horrific price for all that. All of the surrounding Balkans states sided with the axis. Jews and all other ethnic groups have basically been heaved out of Kosovo since KKKlintonista/NATO forces handed the province over to the AKs.


6 posted on 01/27/2008 4:56:46 PM PST by jeddavis
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To: SatinDoll

One good thing is if he becomes Prez, Babe Buchanan will be one of his advisors. Balkan Freepers should see this as a welcomed outcome.


7 posted on 01/28/2008 7:54:19 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: SatinDoll
Thanks to Clinton and Bush we have a lot of ground to make up concerning treatment of Serbia.

So because Serbia was on the right side in World War II, it gets carte blanche for its less-than-noble actions sixty years later? Huh?

8 posted on 01/28/2008 7:56:47 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: jeddavis
Serbia basically declared war on Hitler and held him for six months and sent him into Russia in the dead of winter rather than on schedule and Serbs paid a horrific price for all that. All of the surrounding Balkans states sided with the axis.

All of the surrounding Balkan states? Greece and Albania certainly didn't side with the Axis, although Bulgaria, Romania and Croatia did. I'm not sure what your point is. Stalin was also a staunch ally in World War II. Does that mean the US should have supported Stalin post-war? That's ridiculous.

Jews and all other ethnic groups have basically been heaved out of Kosovo since KKKlintonista/NATO forces handed the province over to the AKs.

Uh... that's the most ridiculous argument I've ever seen. How many Jews were in Kosovo pre 1999?

2?

There are very small numbers of Jews anywhere in Serbia; the only significant populations are in Beograd and Vojvodina (in far Northern Serbia next to Hungary and nowhere near Kosovo).

9 posted on 01/28/2008 8:04:39 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: jeddavis

I’ll add that Prince Pavle, a Serb, was a notable Nazi collaborator who ruled Yugoslavia until his overthrow. While Tito, a Croat, was the leader of the Partisans, easily the most effective (apologies to the Chetnkiks) anti-Nazi resistance. It’s undeniable that most Croats tended to support the Nazis while Serbs tended to support the resistance, but don’t buy into silly caricatures.


10 posted on 01/28/2008 8:10:38 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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And I can add that Tito partisans were Serbs. Out of 4 Partisan army commanders, 3 of them were Serbs, and one Hungarian.


11 posted on 01/28/2008 9:41:06 AM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: Alter Kaker
Tito was given false credit for Chetnik successes by British communist moles. The Nazis had a far higher wanted price on Draza Mihailovic's head than Tito's. Tito was often leaving the country for meetings with the allies or hiding in caves during the fighting. He also did nothing against the Ustashe. The Chetniks were the first to rise up against the Nazis and Tito did nothing until months later - and mostly he fought against the Chetniks turning it into a civil war instead of fighting against the Germans.

The Chetniks weren't given 1/1000th of the aid Tito and the Partisans were given by the allies, and that is why they had so much trouble and were eventually defeated by Tito.

Tito jailed and killed hundreds of thousands of anti-communists after he took over.

American operatives witnessed German's attacking Chetniks, but there's no real witnessing of Tito fighting the Germans - even by those who went to see him.

12 posted on 01/28/2008 9:58:24 AM PST by joan
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And Jews were involved in setting up the death camps of Serbs in Croatia according to a Croat here - "Diocletian". He should know because his grandfather was a Ustasha fighter.

Jews were also involved in the communist government which ran Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union. They sent many Orthodox Christians to their deaths.

13 posted on 01/28/2008 10:01:37 AM PST by joan
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And I can add that Tito partisans were Serbs.

Most were Serbs. The Partisans weren't exclusively Serb. The pro-Nazi collaborators in the Serbian State Guards were also Serbs. Not sure what any of this has to do with policy regarding Kosovo today, in 2008, but I'm sure you'll enlighten.

Out of 4 Partisan army commanders, 3 of them were Serbs, and one Hungarian.

I'm not disputing that.

14 posted on 01/28/2008 10:47:12 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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Tito was given false credit for Chetnik successes by British communist moles.

Uh, ok.

He also did nothing against the Ustashe.

That's utterly ridiculous. The Battles of Neretva, Sutjeska, Poljana, etc. didn't happen? Do you really believe this nonsense?

The Chetniks were the first to rise up against the Nazis and Tito did nothing until months later - and mostly he fought against the Chetniks turning it into a civil war instead of fighting against the Germans.

Are you living in backwards land? In the raid on Dvar, your Chetniks fought side by side alongside the Nazis in a failed attempt to capture Tito in his headquarters. There's a reason the Allies (the people you apparently hate) stopped supporting the Chetniks and started supporting the Partisans -- one group was effective and the other group wasn't. In no way am I pretending that Tito was a saint, but he was killing Nazis (the only priority during the War) when nobody else was.

15 posted on 01/28/2008 11:00:59 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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And Jews were involved in setting up the death camps of Serbs in Croatia according to a Croat here

Joan: Jews responsible for the Holoaust.

Your bizarre historical claims are as obscure as your motives are clear.

16 posted on 01/28/2008 11:02:35 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: joan
Jews were also involved in the communist government which ran Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union. They sent many Orthodox Christians to their deaths.

More Jew-hating. What's wrong with you? There were far more Serbs, Slovenes, Croats, Bosniaks, etc. in the communist government, but of course you need to make everything about the Jews. Methinks you have some issues you need to deal with.

17 posted on 01/28/2008 11:05:39 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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She said nothing antisemitic, read carefully her post again...
18 posted on 01/28/2008 1:26:51 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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The BBC began to give the Partisans credit for Chetnik sabotage efforts, while circulating blatant and inaccurate accounts of Chetnik collaboration with the Germans. “Even before the new [British] policy had been approved, the BBC had on its own initiative started to compliment his [Mihailovic’s] opponents.” The successful Chetnik attack on German supplies and bridge at Visegrad in September 1943 was instead credited to the Partisan effort. This disinformation continued into 1943 and only exacerbated the worsening situation between the British and Mihailovic.

The Partisans, however, were not innocent of collaboration by any means. Following the conclusion of the German Fourth Offensive in January 1943, Tito remained more focused on pursuing their original objective of ousting from Montenegro the Chetniks. He issued several orders to subordinate commanders not to fight the Germans for his representatives and the Germans were conducting sensitive talks in Zagreb. These talks were designed to create a German-Partisan non-aggression pact to allow Tito to concentrate completely on fighting the Chetniks, whom they regarded as their principal enemy. Although the Germans and Partisans failed to reach a formal agreement, Tito used the resulting lull in military activity to relieve some of the pressure placed on him. Unlike Mihailovic, Tito hid these talks from the Allies to maintain the illusion that the Partisans would never collaborate with the enemy.

The positive impression of the field reports of OSS officers attached to Tito’s Liberation Army caused American officials to adjust support away from Mihailovic, because reports that were pro-Mihailovic were not delivered until 1944, after a general Allied pro-Partisans policy had been established.

…A closer look at the OSS records indicates that the field reports on Mihailovic conveyed a more accurate and positive image of the Chetnik movement than British reports… Even Lt.Col. Farish, a pro-Tito OSS Officer made a complete turnaround of his assessments regarding the civil war within Yugoslavia from his first report in October 1943 to his second in June 1944. However, his re-evaluation of the Yugoslav situation and subsequent Allied support policy fell on deaf ears as Churchill and Roosevelt ignored information that conflicted with the policy that had already chosen to follow.

http://www.usna.edu/History/honors/2003/GordonThesis.doc
19 posted on 01/28/2008 2:07:34 PM PST by joan
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The fact that Tito's commanders were in talks in Zagreb during the war shows that the Ustashe were not interested in fighting him. Chetniks and Serbs would have been slaughtered if caught in Croatia:

"He [Tito] issued several orders to subordinate commanders not to fight the Germans for his representatives and the Germans were conducting sensitive talks in Zagreb."

20 posted on 01/28/2008 2:10:56 PM PST by joan
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