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To: mylife

The Indonesian communists were worse than Suharto, I presume you mean. How so? Did they kill as many as Suharto did?

But back to my question, what were the conditions that made the Communists attractive to so many poor Indonesians?


35 posted on 01/27/2008 7:13:54 PM PST by secretagent
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To: secretagent

I mean the conditions were bad under Sukarno.
That lead to the popularism of communism.
Suharto didn’t really alleviate the oppression he just rounded up the rabble rousers and killed them.

Megawati Sukarnoputri finally brought some democracy to the place, though there are so many poor with no opportunity’s there it is staggering.


36 posted on 01/27/2008 7:19:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: secretagent

You might want to ask yourself what still makes communism so attractive to so many mindless idiots here in the US.

Rational reasoning is not always required or even desired. Fairy tales and make believe are a huge portion of the communist pipe dream. That, and appealing directly to the most base and destructive hatred of envy that can reside in men’s souls.

Of course, among the elites of the world, there’s ever only been two options since the fall of the aristocracy.

Everything must either be fascism or communism. The uniquely evil American thing is never even considered as a possibility.


37 posted on 01/27/2008 8:50:41 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: secretagent
But back to my question, what were the conditions that made the Communists attractive to so many poor Indonesians?

Same as always ... horrible exploitation by rich landowners, and vast political corruption, and violence used to keep the uppity ones down. We all know that Communism relies on lies and oppression, but flourishes because communists aren't the first in the area to use lies, corruption, and oppression.

Communism works because it exploits legitimate grievances. That's why it's popular in the poorer areas of Mexico, for example.

43 posted on 01/28/2008 8:13:47 AM PST by r9etb
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