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How About Giving Jesus Christ’s Name a Breather!
Dr. Carl S. Parnell

Posted on 01/28/2008 12:05:56 PM PST by Dr. Carl S. Parnell

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To: pray4liberty

That’s right. He sits in the heavens and laughs are our foolishness.


21 posted on 01/28/2008 12:42:09 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: freepertoo
I’ve found that Jesus name is used routinely now as a cuss word, even by people who regularly attend church!

It's easy enough to break people of that. Just say "He's not going to help you in THAT tone of voice."

22 posted on 01/28/2008 12:43:47 PM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: Greg F

Yeah, wouldn’t want kids to learn about other religions now would we?


23 posted on 01/28/2008 12:45:39 PM PST by Pawtucket Patriot
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To: Marysecretary

Woops, I meant laughs AT our foolishness. Sigh.


24 posted on 01/28/2008 12:45:48 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

How about pre-empting having to make that decision and keep them bottled up somewhere with the superiority of our technology (military power) which stems from our religious basis?

(The basic assumptions about our Deity give us the basis for our scientific discovery and advancement - theirs does the opposite.)


25 posted on 01/28/2008 12:48:23 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
I think we ought to start saying, “HILLARY CLINTON!” when we hit our thumb with a hammer instead. hehe

I have been using Bill's call sign for some time now.

As in: GDSOB!

26 posted on 01/28/2008 12:49:28 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
99% of them claim Christianity because it makes it sound good for them.

Well, yes, that kind of proves my point. If Christians were really the persecuted group portrayed by the article, do you think the leaders of the nation would make a show of professing their membership in that group?

27 posted on 01/28/2008 12:53:05 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: Dr. Carl S. Parnell

I wonder if insisting that one plus one equals two would be considered mathematical totalitarianism by Thomas Friedman?


28 posted on 01/28/2008 12:54:28 PM PST by Juan Medén
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To: Bosh Flimshaw
This nation is so anti-Christian that only 99% of our elected leaders in Washington are openly Christian, mega-churches wield enormous political and economic influence, and nearly every Presidential candidate openly discusses the importance of his Christian beliefs.

Yep, that is why the only words you can't say on a state owned microphone are Jesus Christ. And the only words forbidden in public schools, Jesus Christ. Meanwhile, promotion of teenage sex, homosexuality and abortions is the norm. Yep, a lot of politicians give lip service, but few of them really mean it.

29 posted on 01/28/2008 12:59:15 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Dr. Carl S. Parnell
>>Therefore, don’t use profane words toward anyone’s god, especially Jesus Christ.<<

I say "barnacles" whenever I smash my finger.

30 posted on 01/28/2008 1:21:39 PM PST by Muleteam1 (Spongebob Squarepants and Patrick Star. That's the ticket!)
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To: Dr. Carl S. Parnell
I think that this author and Joseph Farah completely missed the main point of the Thonas Friedman article. I just read the original article on the NYT website, and it is primarily about how Islam is not a tolerant religion. It says that Judaism and Christianity are tolerant but that Islam is not. Here is a relevant quote from the next-to-last paragraph.

What is different about Islam is that while there have been a few attempts at such a reformation, none have flowered or found the support of a Muslim state. We patronize Islam, and mislead ourselves, by repeating the mantra that Islam is a faith with no serious problems accepting the secular West, modernity and pluralism, and the only problem is a few bin Ladens. Although there is a deep moral impulse in Islam for justice, charity and compassion, Islam has not developed a dominant religious philosophy that allows equal recognition of alternative faith communities. Bin Laden reflects the most extreme version of that exclusivity, and he hit us in the face with it on 9/11.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C02E1D6113AF934A15752C1A9679C8B63

31 posted on 01/28/2008 1:45:09 PM PST by DeweyCA
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To: nina0113
I think I'll give your suggestion a try. I had a friend who used to respond to the outburst of Jesus' name being used that way by following up with "Who was crucified for our sins." The stunned and embarrassed looks on the "offenders" faces was often priceless. A lot of people didn't even realize they had said it, because it had become just another reflexive response.

I can't wait to see the reaction when I try your suggestion.

32 posted on 01/28/2008 1:50:42 PM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: freepertoo

“It is also an abomination to God when members of the media and the entertainment industry use Jesus Christ’s name in vain.”

I think, that being as Al Gore is now a god of the environmental movement for the left, that his name should be substituted when someone wants to use the Lord’s name in vain. Everytime you hear this happen on TV or wherever, picture substituting the name of Al Gore.

“Al Gore! That car almost hit me!”


33 posted on 01/28/2008 1:51:53 PM PST by murron
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To: MarineBrat

Did you see the Exorcism of Emily Rose? The priest in that movie was also portrayed in a heroic manner. Even though the possession scenes were very scary and intense, the movie as a whole was very good. I especially liked the ending.


34 posted on 01/28/2008 1:54:20 PM PST by murron
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To: Bosh Flimshaw

Not until He comes back. Or at least, that’s what I thought I understood Him to say.


35 posted on 01/28/2008 1:57:55 PM PST by Mama25 (The only chaps a girl can trust are those she wears)
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To: MrB
True, but if you're a woman in a Muslim country, your husband's camel is worth more than you.
36 posted on 01/28/2008 2:24:19 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: Always Right
Yep, that is why the only words you can't say on a state owned microphone are Jesus Christ. And the only words forbidden in public schools, Jesus Christ.

While I understand those are popular urban legends, those statements just don't hold any water.

You can't use a state owned microphone, or a school, to proselytize. That's good. I don't want my local school used to promote Methodism any more than I want the government to have any say in what's in the sermon at my local Methodist church.

You know why it's considered ok to poke fun at Christians? Because they are a hugely powerful majority that dominates a great deal of the government. That's why it happens, and that's why its good that it happens. The powerful should be the target of some mockery. That's good for our system, and it's ultimately good for the church itself.

37 posted on 01/28/2008 2:36:05 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: Bosh Flimshaw
While I understand those are popular urban legends, those statements just don't hold any water. You can't use a state owned microphone, or a school, to proselytize.

And what authority does the government have on that? The only authority the government has is to not establish a religion and is specifically forbidden to suppress religious expression. Besides, how is thanking God at graduation proselytizing? How are student lead prayers proselytizing? These aren't urban legends, they are court rulings.

38 posted on 01/28/2008 3:11:13 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Bosh Flimshaw


This nation is so anti-Christian that only 99% of our elected leaders in Washington are openly Christian, mega-churches wield enormous political and economic influence, and nearly every Presidential candidate openly discusses the importance of his Christian beliefs.”

You can’t be that dumb to believe what you wrote!


39 posted on 01/28/2008 3:14:13 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: Always Right
And what authority does the government have on that? The only authority the government has is to not establish a religion and is specifically forbidden to suppress religious expression.

The authority that recognizes when you use public resources to advance religion, it creates the appearance, if not the reality, of a government-established religion.

I don't know about you, but I really, really like the fact that I can go to church on Sundays without the government having to approve of what the pastor says. In order to keep it that way, we have to be extremely vigilant in keeping the government's business in the government's hands, and the church's business in the church's hands.

What people often fail to consider when arguing against the separation of church and state is that it is a two way street: you simply cannot increase religions role in government without also increasing government's role in religion. Do you really want your government to become more involved in your church?

40 posted on 01/28/2008 3:26:08 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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