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Exclusive First Drive: Tesla Roadster
Auto blog ^ | 1-28-08 | Damon Lavrinc

Posted on 01/28/2008 3:12:40 PM PST by dynachrome

Most people are lucky to experience one life-affirming moment while they're on this earth; I experienced mine last week. AutoblogGreen's Sam Abuelsamid called to ask if I was interested in accompanying him on his exclusive First Drive of the Tesla Roadster. Aside from the company's own employees, only a few customers and the major automotive print publications have driven the Tesla Roadster so far. But you won't have to check your mailbox or drop $4.95 at Barnes and Noble to read about what it's like to drive this truly revolutionary vehicle. Follow the jump for our full road test (with video!) and check out the gallery of amazing images below.

(Excerpt) Read more at autoblog.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: autos; electric; energy; hybrid; tesla
Sounds nice, but cost?, reliability?,recharging time?,battery life?

Video at the link.

1 posted on 01/28/2008 3:12:41 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Anyone see the newly designed Camaro?


2 posted on 01/28/2008 3:21:17 PM PST by caisson71
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To: dynachrome

A couple of other concerns -

The carbon-fiber laminate support - how will that hold up in the sun for a few years? Last I checked, that stuff doesn’t like heat or direct sunlight...

And as you posted, battery life (and replacement cost/difficulty), recharge time, etc.

Reliability - I guess would depend on the battery itself.

And I am sure it is all super-expensive. Will be for those Hollyweird types who like to drop big-bucks on a status symbol, while pretending to be “green”...


3 posted on 01/28/2008 3:24:47 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please help us to elect a Godly and patriotic man for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: caisson71

there are a few points I’m plannin on adding to my ‘69


4 posted on 01/28/2008 3:25:35 PM PST by Minnesoootan (no /s needed)
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To: dynachrome

$100K is quoted in the video.


5 posted on 01/28/2008 3:27:39 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please help us to elect a Godly and patriotic man for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: dynachrome
Whatever floats your boat..this is what's floating mine right now! Have this baby for two months and I AM LOVING IT!


6 posted on 01/28/2008 3:28:16 PM PST by Hildy (You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep cause reality is finally better than your dreams)
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To: TheBattman

“that stuff doesn’t like heat or direct sunlight...”
I did not know that. People have talked up carbon fiber bodies for cars before, but large price and maybe the sunlight thing killed that.


7 posted on 01/28/2008 3:30:20 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: TheBattman

The price to buy and the total cost are actually a pretty good measure of how “green” it is. The cost of the car is a measure of the resources that go into making the thing. The cost of disposing of dead batteries and buying new ones is part of the cost of resources used.


8 posted on 01/28/2008 3:32:28 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: TheBattman

I may be wrong, but that may not be the full price. I could have sworn they were talking about $125k or perhaps even a little higher, full price. Perhaps they’ve already put down $25k or so as a deposit.


9 posted on 01/28/2008 3:37:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: TheBattman
Re your questions, most are answered in the article.
10 posted on 01/28/2008 3:47:57 PM PST by Jacquerie (The income tax is an immoral affront to a supposedly free people.)
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To: dynachrome

For the money I would buy an Audi A8L or even better, R8.


11 posted on 01/28/2008 3:49:43 PM PST by ikka
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To: arthurus
The cost of the car is a measure of the resources that go into making the thing.

Yes, and that includes the labor. At first, the Tesla will be built in relatively small numbers. If it's a success, then those numbers will increase and the price would drop.

I don't know if it will be a success, but it's very innovative and we do like innovation, don't we? I won't buy one -- couldn't afford it -- but it represents the type of entrepreneurship I'd expect Freepers to be encouraging instead of disparaging.

12 posted on 01/28/2008 3:55:32 PM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: ikka

R8? A Mazda R8? For $100,000?


13 posted on 01/28/2008 3:59:51 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: TheBattman

“The carbon-fiber laminate support - how will that hold up in the sun for a few years? Last I checked, that stuff doesn’t like heat or direct sunlight...”

You better stay away from Airbus jets
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http://www.tapplastics.com/info/carbonnews.php


14 posted on 01/28/2008 3:59:57 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

No, the Audi R8.


15 posted on 01/28/2008 4:02:50 PM PST by ikka
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To: dynachrome

None of that matters. Take it home and put it in the garage up on blocks so your great-grandkid will have something to start an impressive collection of antiques with.


16 posted on 01/28/2008 4:03:42 PM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: Hildy

Seen yer commercial.......sexy !


17 posted on 01/28/2008 4:04:28 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

:) She really is! (that’s my color, too!)


18 posted on 01/28/2008 4:05:21 PM PST by Hildy (You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep cause reality is finally better than your dreams)
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To: Hildy

It is nice... you should be proud and enjoy it as I am sure ya are !

Good luck with it , rubber side down now........Stay safe !


19 posted on 01/28/2008 4:13:31 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: TheBattman

“Last I checked, that stuff doesn’t like heat or direct sunlight”

Carbon fiber masts have been used for boats for years now. Paints work on them as well as on other materials.


20 posted on 01/28/2008 4:16:27 PM PST by brooklin
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To: Minnesoootan

I have to decide if i recondition my ‘79 or sell it to buy the new Camaro.


21 posted on 01/28/2008 4:18:41 PM PST by caisson71
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To: Hildy

Isn’t the question, “Does your car turn you on”........LOL


22 posted on 01/28/2008 4:20:38 PM PST by caisson71
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To: TheBattman
According to one of the videos, they're warranting the battery pack for 4 years or 100,000 miles.

BTW: check out the videos on that website.

23 posted on 01/28/2008 4:21:48 PM PST by AFreeBird (No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
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To: dynachrome



24 posted on 01/28/2008 4:22:19 PM PST by COBOL2Java (May the Lord bless and keep Hillary Clinton - far away from the White House!)
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To: Hildy

Looks cheap, what is it?


25 posted on 01/28/2008 4:24:21 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: caisson71

I likey the ‘79.....KEEP IT!
I had a ‘82 Berlinetta I regret sellin also


26 posted on 01/28/2008 4:30:18 PM PST by Minnesoootan (globull warming makes you buy toilet paper)
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To: dynachrome; TheBattman

The carbon itself is fine with sun and heat (Formula One brake rotors are carbon). Potential problems come with workmanship — one bubble or ripple can ruin your whole day — and the type and preparation of the epoxies used in the layup. With proper fabrication quality and a decent ($$$) paintjob, the finished structures will never know they’re outdoors.


27 posted on 01/28/2008 4:31:50 PM PST by Tenniel2 (If you liked the nomenklatura, you'll love the PIAPSburo.)
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To: caisson71

I wonder what the shippin cost would be from Hawaii?? that’s gotta be in WAY better shape than my MN raised ‘69!


28 posted on 01/28/2008 4:32:58 PM PST by Minnesoootan (globull warming makes you buy toilet paper)
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To: BfloGuy
I don't know if it will be a success, but it's very innovative and we do like innovation, don't we? I won't buy one -- couldn't afford it -- but it represents the type of entrepreneurship I'd expect Freepers to be encouraging instead of disparaging.

I agree, American innovation. The car chassis itself may be based on a British design, but the idea of using 6K L-Ion laptop batteries, hook them up to a kick ass electric motor and make a green car that is fun to drive ( 0~60/ 4 sec., 125mph TS), and has a 220 mile range.

So while GM and other were out making boring(ugly), slow heavy EV's these guys did better. Way better.

This is one FReeper who celebrates the accomplishment. If I had a hundred grand to spend on it, I would.

29 posted on 01/28/2008 4:34:54 PM PST by AFreeBird (No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
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To: Hildy
.this is what's floating mine right now! Have this baby for two months and I AM LOVING IT!

The CTS is indeed an incredible car. Enjoy...I know you will!

30 posted on 01/28/2008 4:43:29 PM PST by montag813
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To: dynachrome

I thought a thread just the other day said they went out of business?


31 posted on 01/28/2008 4:44:27 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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To: Jacquerie; TheBattman

from the comments after the article:

It’s a 53KWh battery.

If you tried to use a regular 110V plus (1.85KW), it would take over 29 hours.

If you use a 230V, 30A outlet (like a dryer outlet), it would take over 9 hours.

If you install a 230V, 60A connection (special sub-panel), it’ll take over 5 hours.

(Don’t think I’ll be buying a car that can take 29 hours to fill the tank.)


32 posted on 01/28/2008 4:45:22 PM PST by flowerplough ( Allah, through his prophet and his followers, demands my submission and obedience, or my death.)
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To: AFreeBird

It is very interesting and may be an example of excellent disruptive innovation coming, as usual, from anyone but the big guys. Certainly it is worth staying tuned.


33 posted on 01/28/2008 4:46:36 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: dynachrome

It is handsome enough.


34 posted on 01/28/2008 4:47:33 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I think that was an English company with a similar name.


35 posted on 01/28/2008 4:50:23 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: Minnesoootan

I think I will. It’s a 4 speed and I like the 4bbl because I can “fuss” with it.


36 posted on 01/28/2008 5:04:37 PM PST by caisson71
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To: Minnesoootan

My son in Michigan has you beat. I let him use the car while he was in high school but it limited his allowance. He chose the F-250 instead and ran it into the ground.
We have no salt from winter roads.


37 posted on 01/28/2008 5:08:02 PM PST by caisson71
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To: flowerplough
So hook up another dryer outlet. I assume you sleep, around eight hours or so. So hook it up at night and you've got a full charge, 220 mile range to start the day with.

For most people commuting to work, the range is acceptable, and the charge time wouldn't matter.

38 posted on 01/28/2008 5:08:26 PM PST by AFreeBird (No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
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To: dynachrome

How did the car perform in winter tests in ALASKA?

That is the true test of any electric vehicle.

Cold soak the car in -40F temperatures for a week then drive it around if you can. Without a battery heater the whole thing would become a worthless piece of scrap metal because you would have to replace all the frozen batteries.


39 posted on 01/28/2008 5:34:45 PM PST by Chewbacca (Vote Ron Paul for President in 2008!!!!!! The best man for the job!)
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To: spanalot

Maybe, but at least the carbon fiber on the Airbus is painted.


40 posted on 01/28/2008 6:29:19 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: TheBattman
but at least the carbon fiber on the Airbus is painted.

So is the Tesla as is the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

41 posted on 01/29/2008 4:46:31 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Audi R8


42 posted on 01/29/2008 4:56:48 AM PST by reg45
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To: caisson71
I have to decide if i recondition my ‘79 or sell it to buy the new Camaro

Restore!! Restore!!!

43 posted on 01/29/2008 8:20:57 AM PST by laotzu
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