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New blasphemy: Ignoring the facts about Islamic law
the oklahoman ^ | January 23, 2008 | Diana West

Posted on 01/28/2008 10:44:02 PM PST by george76

Mazar-i-Sharif.

Ring a bell? In 2001, a 32-year-old Marine captain and CIA officer named John Michael Spann was killed there in a prison riot, thus becoming the first American combat death in Afghanistan.

Not incidentally, Spann, before violence broke out, had interrogated an uncooperative John Walker Lindh, the American Taliban. This all took place before the U.S. military completely toppled Afghanistan's Taliban oppressors.

Nearly seven years later, American-liberated Mazar-i-Sharif has again made headlines — well, one or two — as the site of the prison where a 23-year-old Afghan journalist has been detained for three months (and counting) on blasphemy charges. These charges derive, Reuters reports, from Sayed Perwiz Kambakhsh "distributing an article which said Prophet Mohammad had ignored the rights of women.”

Then there's Halabja.

Remember Halabja? The name is notorious for being the town where in 1988, 15 years before Operation Iraqi Freedom, Saddam Hussein gassed thousands of Kurdish civilians to death.

This month, American-liberated Halabja made headlines as the site of the court that sentenced a Kurdish author in absentia to six months in prison for blasphemy: namely, for writing in a book that Mohammed had 19 wives, married a 9-year-old when he was 54, and took part in murder and rape.

And not just blasphemy laws. Jihad doctrine; Sharia (Islamic law); designs for a global caliphate through jihad (terrorism) and the spread of Sharia (Islamization): We pretend they are not factors in the Free World's experience with Islam.

We certainly don't discuss their implications for the freeness of the world. Look at what passes for "debate” among our presidential candidates: Republicans argue over who supported "the surge” first; Democrats argue over who will withdraw troops first.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsok.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coughlin; global; globaljihad; islam; islamiclaw; jihad; oklahoman; religionofpeace; rop; sharia

1 posted on 01/28/2008 10:44:04 PM PST by george76
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To: Beckwith; Candor7; Fred Nerks; BIGLOOK; potlatch; ASA Vet; jan in Colorado; freekitty; ...

” we seem to have arrived at a strange junction where neither jihadist apologists nor surge enthusiasts want to hear the facts about Islamic law.

You might say it’s become the new blasphemy.”


2 posted on 01/28/2008 10:47:34 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; PurpleMan; PGalt; StarCMC; Cannoneer No. 4; brityank; freema; Cindy
A Stephen Coughlin ((((Ping))))!
3 posted on 01/28/2008 10:48:55 PM PST by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: george76
This month, American-liberated Halabja made headlines as the site of the court that sentenced a Kurdish author in absentia to six months in prison for blasphemy: namely, for writing in a book that Mohammed had 19 wives, married a 9-year-old when he was 54, and took part in murder and rape.

Whatever you do, don't tell the truth about Mohamed. It ruins the lie.

4 posted on 01/28/2008 10:49:35 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: SlapHappyPappy

Islam - The World’s Most Intolerant Religion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqmaSmgjn8s


5 posted on 01/28/2008 10:53:31 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Chgogal

For anyone who desires further explanation re: the Islamic goal, which is to ultimately establish Islam as the theocracy of the globe, read or listen to Walid Shoebat’s Prophecies 101.

At one time, Shoebat was a Muslim with ties to terrorism. He has since turned his back on all fundamentalist Islamic beliefs and has exposed it as being Satan’s counter attack to Christianity. Walid Shoebat’s Prophecy 101 - Islam and Satan - can be viewed in several parts on YouTube.com.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/322-01222008-1475105.html


6 posted on 01/28/2008 11:12:27 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Chgogal; george76
I think the developements in Kurdistan are more interesting than what's happening in Afghanistan-which has been grappling with various strains of Islamism for years.

There is a huge cultural shift happening in Northern Iraq, which mirrors what occurred in the rest of the country during the last two decades or so of Saddam Hussein's rule.

To me the battle to crush Ansar al-Islam or Al Qaeda in Iraq in that region is inconsequential in the long run, because the insidious spread of Islamism will be a much bigger test.

7 posted on 01/28/2008 11:28:24 PM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: george76

8 posted on 01/28/2008 11:52:51 PM PST by robomatik (......uh since fred and duncan are out, i think i need a new tagline. =()
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To: george76
stupid jihadists meet allah

but! who said the 72 virgins were all women? ;)

achmed the dead terrorist

9 posted on 01/29/2008 12:01:45 AM PST by robomatik (......uh since fred and duncan are out, i think i need a new tagline. =()
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To: george76
p.s.

the holidays are over, but this is good for a laugh!

jingle bombs

10 posted on 01/29/2008 12:09:09 AM PST by robomatik (......uh since fred and duncan are out, i think i need a new tagline. =()
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To: george76; Fred Nerks; Beckwith; forkinsocket
You might say it’s become the new blasphemy.”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The sad thing is it is more than "New Blasphemy".

It is treason to the American people who pay the taxes that pay the saleries of the likes of Hesham Islam, who is on the staff of the deputy chief of the DoD. This POS was instrumental in having Islamic Law legal expert Coughlin fired , becuase Couglin had prepared a breifing paper for the DoD policy position on Islamic jihadists, which told the truth about the world caliphate movement.

In one swift stroke of Takkiya, Hesham Islam confronted Coughlin in a meeting , had an argument in which he accused Coughlin of being a bigot, an argument ensued, result: Coughlin fired, AND:

No position of the DoD in which the truth about the evolution of Islamofascism constitutes any official policy of the US military.

This lack of empirically based policy, this Utopian Ho-haw, constitutes a egregious security threat to the country.

There should be a congressional hearing about Coughlins firing, and the circumstances which led to it.

People like retired naval commander Hesham Islam should never be given a security clearance to occupy such a position in the first place.Hesham Islam's world view makes it impossible for him to discharge a duty to maintain the security of the United States.

Blasphemy? Its F'n treason.

11 posted on 01/29/2008 12:47:23 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Pontiac

For later.


12 posted on 01/29/2008 12:52:47 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Candor7

never heard about that.


13 posted on 01/29/2008 1:00:04 AM PST by robomatik (......uh since fred and duncan are out, i think i need a new tagline. =()
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To: robomatik
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1959605/posts Or Freepsearch "Coughlin".
14 posted on 01/29/2008 1:55:18 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: robomatik; Beckwith; forkinsocket; Fred Nerks; george76

January 25, 2008, 7:45 a.m.

Questions for the Pentagon
Who is Hesham Islam?

By Claudia Rosett

In the sorry tradition of shooting the messenger, the Pentagon is cashiering its top expert on Islamist doctrine, Stephen Coughlin. Some members of Congress are now contemplating hearings to ask why. Along with drawing attention to Coughlin’s research, now circulating on the Internet, the growing controversy has thrown a spotlight on Coughlin’s alleged nemesis at the Pentagon, a top aide named Hesham Islam — whose tale deserves closer attention. Not least, as a reporter for the Armed Forces Press Service observed last year, it would make a great Hollywood blockbuster.

Certainly there are subplots here that seem made for the movies, including tales of Islam, in his youth, living through an air raid in Egypt, a ship sinking in the Arabian Sea, and now, years later, this scuffle under the Pentagon rug over how to deal with the chief threat to America today — Islamic extremism.

Hesham Islam is a native Arabic speaker, a Muslim, born in 1959 in Cairo and schooled in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. In 1980 he immigrated to the U.S. From 1985-2005 he served in the U.S. Navy, rising to the mid-level officer rank of commander. At some point after former defense-industry executive Gordon England joined the Bush administration as secretary of the Navy, in 2001, Islam went to work on his staff. In 2005, when England, after a stint in Homeland Security took over from Paul Wolfowitz in the Defense Department’s number two slot of deputy secretary, Islam came with him.

In England’s office, Islam’s official title is special assistant for international affairs. In that capacity he pops up as a man-about-town in Washington, making the rounds of embassies. But Islam also works as England’s point man for Pentagon outreach programs to Muslim groups. These include organizations such as the Islamic Society of North America, or ISNA, with whom Islam and England have forged ties — attending ISNA conventions, and hosting ISNA delegations at Pentagon events, and in England’s office.

That’s alarming to some, such as terrorism expert Steven Emerson, executive director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, who, for more than a decade, has been tracking Islamic extremist networks in the U.S. In a recent appearance on Fox News, Emerson described Hesham Islam as, in his view, “an Islamist with a pro-Muslim Brotherhood bent who has brought in groups to the Pentagon who have been unindicted co-conspirators.”

Emerson was apparently referring to ISNA, named last summer by the Department of Justice as a member of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood and an unindicted co-conspirator in the case of the Holy Land Foundation, an Islamic charity indicted in 2005 in Dallas federal court for allegedly providing millions of dollars to the terrorist group Hamas (itself an outgrowth of the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood). ISNA, in a press statement, says it “remains unjustly branded by the government as an unindicted co-conspirator.” (The Holy Land Foundation case resulted in a mistrial last fall, and is expected to be re-tried).

But whatever Emerson’s worries, Islam’s boss, Gordon England, apparently can’t praise Hesham Islam and his work enough. In public statements over the past year, England has described Islam as “my personal close confidante,” “my interlocutor,” a man who “represents me to the international community,” and “assists me in my own outreach efforts.” Photos taken on the Washington’s diplomatic reception circuit show England and Islam side-by-side, chatting up contacts. Last October, England described Islam to a Pentagon in-house reporter as a man with “wonderful friendships and relationships” which allow Islam to “give me extraordinarily good advice in dealing with countries and people.” England added, “I take his advice, and I listen to him all the time.”

As for the Pentagon’s soon-to-be-evicted Stephen Coughlin, who sits well below Islam on the Defense totem pole — he is a lawyer by training, and a major in the U.S. Army Reserve. On contract with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Coughlin made it his mission to set aside the feel-good assumptions about Islam which have been guiding U.S. strategy, and take an unblinkered look at facts.

In a thesis accepted last year by the National Defense Intelligence College, entitled “To Our Great Detriment: Ignoring What Extremists Say About Jihad,” Coughlin came up with heavily documented findings that Islamic law, to a dangerous extent, supports the global spread of Islamic extremism, through both violent and non-violent means. In presentations to the military, based in part on court documents connected to the case of the Holy Land Foundation, Coughlin warned of Muslim Brotherhood plans to subvert the U.S. system via front groups, and “destroy western civilization from within.”

And then, Coughlin got the shove. Earlier this month, he was told that his contract with the Joint Chiefs of Staff will not be renewed when it expires in March. Why? According to Bill Gertz of the Washington Times, who on Jan. 4 broke the story of Coughlin’s ouster, Coughlin ran afoul of a Pentagon “key aide” named Hesham Islam. Attributing his information to unnamed “officials,” Gertz, who in a series of subsequent articles has stood by his story, alleged that Hesham Islam at a Pentagon meeting late last year sought to have Coughlin soften his views, and called him a “Christian zealot or extremist ‘with a pen’” — or words to that effect.

Pentagon officials say it never happened. In England’s office, the special assistant for public relations, retired Navy Captain Kevin Wensing, says he was at the meeting, but that there was no confrontation, and Islam had nothing to do with Coughlin’s ouster. Wensing also forwarded to me a statement put out by the Joint Chiefs of Staff that “Mr. Coughlin will have successfully completed the terms of his contract. Therefore, there was no need to exercise the option to extend or renew the contract.”

Who’s right? A request to the Defense Department press office to interview Coughlin runs straight into a brick wall. A press officer says that under terms of his not-quite-expired contract, Coughlin is “prohibited from speaking to the media.”

Hesham Islam appears to be under no such constraints. He gave an interview last year to ABC News, in which he talked about the hardships of being a Muslim in the military, saying that “Since 9/11, I no longer have a land line. I only work with my cell phone, because I got a lot of hate messages on the phone.”

For this article, however, Islam — according to a spokesman — was “not interested in an interview.” Nor would England’s office provide anyone willing to answer any detailed questions about Hesham Islam for direct attribution. Instead, after some discussion, an arrangement was finally offered in which a “Pentagon spokesman” would field questions, forward them to Islam, and relay any replies.

For more information, the spokesman recommended a profile of Islam, released October 15, 2007 by the Armed Forces Press Service under the headline: “Senior Advisor to Deputy Secretary Focuses on Relationship Building.” Still available on the Defense web site, the article includes an interview with Islam, some of the praise from England quoted above, and a photo of Islam, flashing a tight smile, seated in his shirtsleeves at his Pentagon desk, next to a bulletin board decked with diplomatic invitations.

But this Pentagon-endorsed profile raises more questions than it answers. It begins: “If Hesham Islam’s life story was translated into a screenplay — and it’s got all the makings of a Hollywood blockbuster — the director would be hard-pressed to come up with a more compelling chain of events landing him as a top adviser to the deputy defense secretary.”

As told by Islam to the reporter, “The movie would open with Islam as a young boy growing up in Cairo, Egypt, huddling in terror as Israeli bombs came raining down, demolishing much of the building around him and his family.”

There’s one problem with this scene. As far as I have been able to discover, Israel during Hesham Islam’s entire lifetime has never bombed Cairo. Asked to explain this, the Pentagon spokesman duly conferred with Islam, and relayed to me by phone that Islam says this building-wrecking bombing raid took place during the 1967 Six-Day War. But as for details that might substantiate the when and where in Cairo of this graphic scene, Islam “Doesn’t remember. He was seven years old.”

It is of course possible that Islam was privy to a piece of history with which expert historians on the region are not acquainted. But if this tale is based solely on the unsubstantiated impressions of Islam as a seven-year-old, then what is it doing on the U.S. Defense Department website? Queries I have made to a number of experts in Tel Aviv, the U.S., and Cairo itself all get the same reply: It didn’t happen. According to Michael Oren, author of the extensively researched Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East, Israel during the Six-Day War struck the Cairo airport, but “Israel did not bomb any residential areas of Cairo.”

The profile continues: “Next would be the scene of the teenager who moves to Iraq when his Egyptian naval officer father is transferred to help establish the Arabian Gulf naval academy Islam would later attend.”

That family move to Iraq came as Saddam Hussein was consolidating his Baathist rule, though neither the Pentagon profile nor Hesham Islam’s Pentagon biography any makes mention of that context. In answer to questions, the Pentagon spokesman says Islam’s father was invited to Iraq by Saddam Hussein, but the spokesman doesn’t know when: “It was in 1971-1973 time frame.” Surely with Pentagon background checks, more exact information would be easily available? “It’s available,” says the spokesman, but “I don’t have his C.V. kind of thing.”

The profile goes on to describe young Hesham Islam as a “merchant mariner adrift for three days in the Arabian Sea after an Iranian torpedo sunk his 16,000-ton cargo ship, drowning all but Islam and four of his crewmates.”

That sounds memorable. But after more than a week of my repeated requests made by phone and e-mail, the Pentagon spokesman — despite being presumably in touch with Islam himself — was either unable or unwilling to provide such basic information as the name of the ship, or the date of its sinking. He just kept saying he was “looking into it.” But no answers.

Before I began the marathon requests for specific information, the spokesman had speculated earlier, based on conversations with Islam, that the ship might have been called the Ibn Khaldoon, which might have been registered to the Iraqi merchant marine, and might have sunk sometime in 1979. A check with the U.K.-based Lloyd’s Register turns up two cargo ships registered in Iraq during that time and under that name, but no record that either was ever sunk, either in the 1970s, the 1980s, or beyond. One is still in service; the other was broken up — and not by a torpedo — only a few years ago.

As for records of any incident fitting the generic description of a 16,000-ton cargo ship, under any flag, torpedoed by the Iranians and sunk in the Arabian Sea before Islam immigrated to the U.S. sometime in 1980 (the Pentagon spokesman can’t or won’t say exactly when in 1980), after searching news archives, shipping records, and consulting a number of naval historians, I have yet to come across anything that corroborates Islam’s Iranian-torpedo-in-the-Arabian-Sea story. There were ships sunk by the Iranians in 1980, as the Iran-Iraq war broke out — but that was happening in the Gulf, around the Shatt-al-Arab, on the other side of the Straits of Hormuz, hundreds of miles from the Arabian Sea.

It is of course possible that this torpedoing, ship sinking, and rescue took place exactly as described in the Defense profile. But having showcased the scene for public consumption, why won’t Gordon England’s office provide basic factual information that could confirm this story? Does Hesham Islam not remember that, either? Does no one at Defense have it on file?

In 1980, according to the profile, Islam immigrated to the U.S. to get married, being suddenly love-smitten after receiving a photo of an American pen pal with whom he had been corresponding sight-unseen for more than three years. For the next five years he worked in what the spokesman describes as the “food services” industry. In 1985 he joined the Navy as an electronics technician in the submarine service. According to his Pentagon biography, he went on to serve on a number of ships, in largely technical and operational posts, before hooking up with Gordon England and finally arriving at his current job in the Pentagon.

So, what qualifies Islam to serve as an adviser to whom Gordon England listens all the time, and whose advice England takes? According to Kevin Wensing, England’s pubic-affairs aide: “Mr. Islam brings 20 years of experience in the U.S. Navy and international relations to his current assignment.”

This includes an M.A. in national-security affairs, awarded in 1992 at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif. For this degree, Islam wrote a 139-page thesis about the Middle East, entitled “Roots of Regional Ambition.” In it, he devoted dozens of pages to lambasting Israel, and the influence of American Jews on U.S. politics. He deplored “Israeli activities which have detrimentally affected U.S. objectives but which have continued with impunity.” He argued that U.S. support for Israel “has negatively affected the attainment of U.S. objectives in the Middle East.” He blamed the influence of American Jews on U.S. policy for a host of ills, ranging from Arab “retaliation” against Americans, to jobs lost overseas, to hampering sales of “defensive arms to friendly Arab states.”

Whether Gordon England (or Defense Secretary Robert Gates, for that matter) considers such views a relevant qualification for Islam’s current duties is unclear. But what’s emerging at the Pentagon is a landscape in which Stephen Coughlin’s insistence on crafting doctrine based not on politically correct assumptions, but on facts, is apparently deemed a bridge too far. Meanwhile, from the office of Deputy Secretary England, Hesham Islam continues his bridge building. The question isn’t just whom to believe, but who’s running this show?


15 posted on 01/29/2008 2:04:49 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Candor7; FARS

Thank you for the information.


16 posted on 01/29/2008 3:45:08 AM PST by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Candor7
Excellent investigative work, per usual, by Claudia Rosett.

It's always reassuring to know that we've got a liason for unindicted co-conspirators in the Pentagon, and one with a whitewashed/fictional biography is even better./sarc

17 posted on 01/29/2008 4:43:54 AM PST by browardchad
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To: george76

Exactly.


18 posted on 01/29/2008 5:10:20 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Candor7
I think it is because there are senior people in the DoD that are convinced that the only way to victory is by winning the hearts and minds of moderate Islamic states. They still believe that we need the vast majority of Muslims on "our side" to defeat the "fringe radicals" such as al Qaeda. We must reach out and understand that most Muslims are peaceful and want these radical elements out.

Bullsh*t. The only response to Islam is with power and conviction. It's not a religion of peace, and they will never be on "our side". They look at our "religion of peace" mumblings as weakness. What they fear most is for the West to awaken and steel itself.

19 posted on 01/29/2008 5:34:49 AM PST by Sender (I've been chicken franchised.)
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To: robomatik

Also freepsearch “Pentagon,” because not everything comes up when you freepsearch “Cooughlin.”


20 posted on 01/29/2008 7:22:01 AM PST by Excellence (Bacon Bits Make Great Confetti)
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To: george76

And where is the United Nations? Isn’t free expression considered a basic human right? From the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

“Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”

I eagerly await the UN’s condemnation of Sharia Law.


21 posted on 01/29/2008 7:26:51 AM PST by Polonius (It's called logic, it'll help you.)
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To: george76; Chgogal
Thanks for the pings. Here's a direct link to Walid's 12-Part YouTube dissertation:

It has Dutch subtitles, but is in English.

22 posted on 01/29/2008 7:49:22 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank; Chgogal; jan in Colorado; Candor7

Thanks.

We on the outside, in Dar al Harb, the regions of the world where Islam does not dominate, are not mere bystanders, but we are also not central to the issues at stake. We will need to fight a holding action to prevent that struggle from ruining our lives, and will need to do so until the community of Islam has been able to resolve this internal conflict.

This revolutionary movement deeply believes in a return to an imagined short Golden Age, the 29 years after the death of the Prophet, (632 to 661), which is the period of the reign of the rashidun, the four righteous caliphs, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman, and Ali. It is a movement distinct from customary Islamic orthodoxy, which had learned to live with political structures, and it is a movement that is useful to certain unprincipled men within Dar al Islam. It espouses certain values that most of us on the outside see as anti-human, and it is these striking and extreme postures that, in the end, may cause it to fail, and may cause other more adaptable theologies within Islam to prevail.

There are differing views as to the origins of this movement. Some believe that it has been implicitly present all along. Most Americans seem to believe that it is a child of the austere Sunni branch of the followers of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, and that it dates to his alliance with Muhammad ibn Saud in 1744.

Others, including myself, would tie it more closely to the Muslim Brotherhood founded by Hassan al-Banna in Ismailiyya in 1928. But in fact, it does not matter. No one in this room will see the end of that struggle.

http://www.journal.dnd.ca/engraph/Vol8/no2/08-cowan_e.asp


23 posted on 01/29/2008 7:57:05 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Chgogal; jan in Colorado; Candor7
No one in this room will see the end of that struggle.

True, but then, no one should even try. Just as we, as a society, can not abide outright thieves and murderers to remain in our midst, neither can we allow the inclusion of the Muslim in our land. Should they wish -- unreservedly -- to join our society, they are welcome. Should they wish -- unreservedly -- to bring their society into ours, they should be rejected absolutely. Let them eat sand and drink oil, and commit their abominations on their own kin and not ours.

24 posted on 01/29/2008 8:15:06 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Polonius; Candor7; Fred Nerks; Beckwith

In 1991, when Obama joined the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, he pledged allegiance to something called the Black Value System, which is a code of non-Biblical ethics written by blacks, for blacks.

It encourages blacks to group together and separate from the larger American society by pooling their money, patronizing black-only businesses and backing black leaders. Such racial separatism is strangely at odds with the media’s portrayal of Obama as a uniter who reaches across races.

In short, Obama’s “unashamedly black” church preaches the politics of black nationalism. And its dashiki-wearing preacher — who married Obama and his wife and now acts as his personal spiritual adviser — is militantly Afrocentric. “We are an African people,” the Rev. Jeremiah Wright reminds his flock, “and remain true to our native land, the mother continent.”

Wright once traveled to Libya with black supremacist Louis Farrakhan to meet with terrorist leader Muammar Qaddafi. Last year at a Chicago gala, Wright honored his old pal Farrakhan, who’s fond of calling whites “blue-eyed devils,” for lifetime achievement.

Obama appears to have sided with opposition leader Raila Odinga, head of the same Luo tribe to which Obama’s late Muslim father belonged.

Obama’s older brother still lives there. Abongo “Roy” Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim ...

Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country...

Would Obama put African tribal or family interests ahead of U.S. interests?

http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/080115/issues.html?.v=1


25 posted on 01/29/2008 8:16:02 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: brityank; george76
Should they wish -- unreservedly -- to bring their society into ours, they should be rejected absolutely.

AMEN!

I wish that was the case. Just the opposite is happening. Their mosques go up all around us, Islam is taught as a religion of peace in our schools, CAIR has silenced Freedom of Speech by getting those who denounce islamic fascism fired...I could go on and on...

26 posted on 01/29/2008 8:29:17 AM PST by jan in Colorado ("It's easier to believe a lie one hears 1,000 times than to believe a fact that one has never heard)
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To: george76

Go to know that our blood and treasure has built two new Sharia countries.


27 posted on 01/29/2008 2:28:06 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Sender
What they fear most is for the West to awaken and steel itself.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Absolutely correct. Americans do not understand what it is like to have religion dictate every breath taken each day. It is beyond their native ken. Islamics will always stick together under that religious regime, against all comers.

Americans do not unbderstand that fact. And so those who lead us down this path to accomodation will one day invi=oke a tragedy beyond comprehesion for our nation, before it awakens to "steel" itself.

I hope we will have it within us, when that day comes, to chase them to the ends of the earth and destroy them utterlly, so that never again will they raise their heads in Islamic Union, but remmain scattered , and disorganized, puruing their religion without plans for a World Caliphate.

Our free society is being used against us. The culture of freedom to which we are accustomed is being used against us. The American public needs to know how that works, but there is no way to inform them, yet.

If Obama becomes president, America will get a little taste.

Maybe that is what we need.

28 posted on 01/29/2008 2:50:40 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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The “blockbuster” (although it wasnt exactly that) has already been made, back in the days when communist Russia was the more obvious threat.
It was called “No way out” Starring Kevin Costner as an officer in the UN Navy - believe it or not - who gets himself an invite to be an “advisor” to a big time Washington politician. It’s written as a thriller, but the similarities are eerie.


29 posted on 01/29/2008 11:59:14 PM PST by weatherwax (Let none who might belong to himself belong to another: Agrippa)
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Apologies, Didnt make clear in the last, the KC character was an undercover Russian spy.


30 posted on 01/30/2008 12:00:46 AM PST by weatherwax (Let none who might belong to himself belong to another: Agrippa)
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Well he was wrong on one thing. Ole Mo married Ayesha when she was only 6 and supposedly waited until she was 9 to consummate the marriage. She was the daughter of the first non-family member to join his conquer, rape, and take booty cult.
31 posted on 01/30/2008 5:00:16 AM PST by BabsC
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