Divided views as US fence goes up

BBC News ^ | 1/31/08 | Duncan Kennedy

[Judith Anne]

“Areas of once-untouched desert are now disappearing under a lengthening slice of man-made fencing....”

Baloney. The mountains of trash left behind by the illegals has ruined huge areas of “once-untouched desert.”

[Southack]

"To the extent the fence is being built at all, it's despite GWB; not because of him."

Nonsense.

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"The president cited a 66 percent increase in border-security funding since he took office, along with a 42 percent increase in interior-enforcement spending and a total of 6 million illegal aliens caught and returned home." http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20060326-123457-5749r

DHS Announces CBP Border Patrol Agent Deployment Schedule
Washington, D.C. – Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced today the fiscal year 2006 U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Border Patrol agent deployment schedule. In a significant increase in personnel, an additional 1,700 CBP Border Patrol agents will be assigned to the southwest border.
http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/press_releases/archives/2005_press_releases/0122005/12072005.xml

[avacado]

"Maybe the kid's crying because his country's being sold out by the Republican party."

Lambcakes, it's the Republican Party in both Houses who killed the immigration bill.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

The fence isn’t only being built in one spot. X number of teams building x number of segments of fence simultaneously at around a mile a month can complete the project in less than 58 years.

[Jeff Head]

Electronics monitoring approach to fence...fence...road...fence...electronics monitoring 100 yards inside US border...and UAVs overhead would be a barrier in depth in my view.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Actually, this piece is pretty fair for Duncan Kennedy. He seems to be the BBC’s Mexico correspondent, so tends to be a little more sympathetic to Mexicans’ views.

[Southack]

"Electronics monitoring approach to fence...fence...road...fence...electronics monitoring 100 yards inside US border...and UAVs overhead would be a barrier in depth in my view."

Understood, except that monitoring isn't a barrier.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

comment 44.

[mdittmar]

It is hard to follow.

So let us keep it front and center.

[DoughtyOne]

There you go. It only takes one guy to make sense out of confusion. Thanks. /s

And here I thought we were talking about 700 years. /s

That was actually pretty good humor.

[teawithmisswilliams]

The “immigration bill” was a total sell-out of our country. And it’s “Miss Williams” to you, sir.

[Jeff Head]

If it monitors those who infiltrate past the physical barrier...and leads to them being apprehended...IMHO it becomes a part of a barrier system in depth. Or call it a Border Enforcement System or some such

But, we can nitpick on and on. The idea that an electronic barrier can be put in place is one that would be best served only, IMHO, when it complimented a good strong physical barrier like the double fence.

[avacado]

"The “immigration bill” was a total sell-out of our country. And it’s “Miss Williams” to you, sir."

Miss Sweet'thang, it's the Republican Party in both Houses who killed the immigration bill.

[DoughtyOne]

Wouldn’t want it any other way. I’m just at the end of my rope with the digust that acompanies the mere mention of it.

[Southack]

Monitoring is good.

The fence is good.

Do both.

That’s defense.

Now, for “defense in depth,” we would then need a physical barrier (personnel and/or obstacles) to the rear of the above.

[Jeff Head]

Fine...I am game for that too. But, IMHO, monitoring that is backed up by warm bodies on the ground that interdict the intruders is also defense.

Round and round and round we go.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Sure thing.

There are at least four comments on this thread all positing the same thing: that work on the fence is being worked linearly one piece at a time. Reserve your /ss for them.

[Southack]

"The “immigration bill” was a total sell-out of our country."

It was defeated.

Are you capable of admitting in public who defeated it (wait, lemme guess, the American people...anyone but the GOP, right?!)?

[teawithmisswilliams]

You mean conservative Republicans, not the Republican Establishment, of course. Your "arguments" are even less persuasive than your insults. Good bye.

[teawithmisswilliams]

See 59.