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Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP
The Hill ^ | 03/28/2007 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 01/31/2008 7:52:48 PM PST by Hoodat

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To: morkfork
He should do NOTHING for us. It is not the job of politicians to do “STUFF” for people.

Where was Romney during the Republican Revolution? (Hiding from Newt Gingrich)

Where was Romney during the Reagan/Bush years? ("I was an independent then")

It was Romney's job as a Republican governor to HELP REPUBLICANS. Reagan spent four years (1976-1980) speaking at every Republican rubber chicken dinner across the country, helping Republicans raise money and run for office.

So it IS the politician's job to help people in his own party. Feel free to list all of the contributions Mitt Romney has made to conservatives in the GOP.

101 posted on 02/01/2008 5:06:51 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Sudetenland

As I stated before, I employed about a dozen people last year.

How many people do you have on YOUR payroll?


102 posted on 02/01/2008 5:12:10 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Honeybunch

Ping.


103 posted on 02/01/2008 5:13:15 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Romney is spending millions of his own money, has put a hold on his life, so he could run for President on a platform that conservatives would drool over

And if Romney found himself running against Reagan, he would be "moderate" running up the middle where Giuliani and McCain are today.

104 posted on 02/01/2008 5:16:29 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Hoodat

“Actions have consequences my friend” as Sen. McCain likes to say.


105 posted on 02/01/2008 5:16:42 AM PST by McGruff (I am against McCain more than I am for Romney.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I’m not supporting McCain. But folks running around here thinking Romney is the Second Coming is mass insanity.

I haven't heard anyone saying Romney is the Second Coming. I have heard a lot of folks (me included) saying he is the only viable alternative.

106 posted on 02/01/2008 5:21:34 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Zero, but then I'm not the one accusing Romney of doing nothing for Conservatism. Congratulations on your success...but is pales in comparison to Mitt's. Mitt also refused to sign the stem cell legislation that came to his desk when he was governor. He also fought hard against same-sex marriages in Mass.

Of course, I don't claim him to be anything like perfect, merely the best of a weak lot.
107 posted on 02/01/2008 5:22:49 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Mr. Brightside

But then Reagan is dead, so Mitt is the most conservative of the three available candidates...unless you plan on raising Reagan from the grave.


108 posted on 02/01/2008 5:24:59 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Sudetenland
Mitt is the most conservative of the three available candidates

Correction. Mitt is not a consevative. He NOW CLAIMS to be one.

He reminds me of the guy who finds Jesus the day before he is to meet with the parole board at his prison.

We hope it is true, but it sounds really fishy.

109 posted on 02/01/2008 5:31:08 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Sudetenland
Congratulations on your success...but is pales in comparison to Mitt's

Screw you. How much money did Romney START with? Did he start with nothing? Or did he start with millions in the bank and load of contacts of people loyal to his dad?

110 posted on 02/01/2008 5:35:01 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Ohhh, so it’s really class envy that generates your hostility towards Mitt, not his recent conversion to Conservatism...Okay I understand now.


111 posted on 02/01/2008 5:41:38 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Sudetenland

No. It was you who compared me to Romney by stating that my success “pales in comparision” to his.

So it YOUR ignorance that I am hostile toward.

BTW, let’s now talk about YOUR success.

How many jobs have you created? How many people on YOUR payroll?


112 posted on 02/01/2008 5:45:30 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Hoodat
Why does this come out THIS LATE? He sat on this for 8 years???

I'm e-mailing my California family (leaning McCain) with this right now. They are Reaganites, I can't believe they would fall for this Democrat stooge.

113 posted on 02/01/2008 5:51:02 AM PST by cookcounty (Ja-pan Jack Murtha, The ex-Marine who thinks Okinawa is on his Middle East map.)
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To: cookcounty

Actually- it’s not coming out late- the date of this piece is about a year ago.

Scary, huh?


114 posted on 02/01/2008 5:55:30 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"Look, I don’t want McCain as the nominee, but for heaven’s sake, Romney is a walking disaster area, a pathological liar, and 100% sleaze who routinely employs bribery.

Name one person he bribed.

Fill in the blank. Do it now:___________________________.

115 posted on 02/01/2008 5:57:20 AM PST by cookcounty (Ja-pan Jack Murtha, The ex-Marine who thinks Okinawa is on his Middle East map.)
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To: tear gas

Where is my hammer and nail picture ....


116 posted on 02/01/2008 6:00:02 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: Hoodat
Romney? He was actually out in the business world saving companies along with their jobs. Perhaps you should take the time to read up on his past. There are hundreds of business that are alive today because of the hard work of Mitt Romney.

Romney is also the only one of those creeps who doesn't get a government check.

Imagine that.

The rest are on the old political welfare system.

117 posted on 02/01/2008 6:02:42 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Mr. Brightside
"Correction. Mitt is not a consevative. He NOW CLAIMS to be one.

Romney is far from ideal. But he actually publicly ENDORSES conservative positions, whatever his past.

And has not spend 25 years referring to conservative Republicans as "chickens#@$" and "Mother^%.

118 posted on 02/01/2008 6:06:08 AM PST by cookcounty (Ja-pan Jack Murtha, The ex-Marine who thinks Okinawa is on his Middle East map.)
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To: cookcounty

How many inmates “endorse” Christianity in their parole hearings?

Forgive me if his “conservative endorsements” sound a little shallow and fake to me.


119 posted on 02/01/2008 6:37:33 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
Let me clarify. What has Romney done for us conservatives?

1. Romney hasn't been on the government teat all his life;

2. He hasn't stabbed us in the back!

120 posted on 02/01/2008 6:46:32 AM PST by lonestar
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To: lonestar
He hasn't stabbed us in the back!

Romney: "I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF RETURNING TO THE DAYS OF REAGAN!"

121 posted on 02/01/2008 6:48:44 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks for the ping!


122 posted on 02/01/2008 7:13:47 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Do you not hear of his murdering the MA GOP ?

There was a MA GOP?

Where? In some remote valley of the Berkshires?

Have they sent out search parties?

123 posted on 02/01/2008 7:20:56 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Sudetenland
Now let me get this straight...anyone who supported Rudy is a pervert and degenerate

Yes, you're right.

124 posted on 02/01/2008 7:44:14 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: Senator Goldwater
I’m not heartbroken. I’m hopeful McCain asks Rudy onto the ticket, which sets him up nicely for 2012 as the incumbent VP when McCain steps down after one term.

What will it take to convince some of you Rudy lovers that your Rudy is a loser.

Give it some time. The infatuation will end.

125 posted on 02/01/2008 7:50:07 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: Hoodat

Any Republican that votes for this man is a RINO loving bastard. You’re destroying the party, because the vast majority of this party doesn’t support this man...at all. You’re helping to split the GOP into a dozen pieces.


126 posted on 02/01/2008 8:20:14 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: tear gas
Oohh-kay, just checking.

Guess I need to increase my Reynolds Aluminum stock holdings.
127 posted on 02/01/2008 10:50:00 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Mr. Brightside
As I stated before, I did not question Romney's bona fides. I never claimed to employ anyone. Your question is irrelevent...and has already been answered. Learn to read.
128 posted on 02/01/2008 10:53:15 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: True-Stu

Nice try. Take a look at the record, the man couldn’t be bothered to notice the warning bells all over the place that this judicial applicant would have a very liberal record on the bench. Nope, he couldn’t get away fast enough to his long lunch at Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse (again, check his schedule for that day, only 15 minutes with Tuttman. It only took a fraction of that time for a FReeper to uncover that she was a Robert Reichite. You don’t ever put people like that on the bench — ever). The blood is on his hands. That is just one of many reasons why Romney is beyond unfit to serve in any political office, period.

And P.S., I’m not supporting McCain. This ain’t and either/or thing, this is a right and wrong thing.


129 posted on 02/01/2008 2:19:02 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: supercat

No, I wouldn’t accuse Romney of being seriously mentally unstable, although his obsession with power, the White House, and his pathological problem with lying makes him borderline. He really is no different than Bill Clinton in that regard.


130 posted on 02/01/2008 2:26:51 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Sudetenland

Unfortunately, he’s the worst of the bad lot, with the record to prove it.


131 posted on 02/01/2008 2:34:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Sudetenland

See, this is what has bothered me. This claim of Fred being lazy was a complete media and establishment fabrication. In other words, it was total bull$hit.


Larry King Live with Jeri & Fred Thompson, 11/30/2007

KING: How do you react to those who say Fred Thompson doesn’t want to work hard?

F. THOMPSON: I don’t usually have much of a reaction to them at all.

KING: Do you think that’s folly or...

F. THOMPSON: Yes. It’s — somebody asked me about that on one of the debates and I went — got to thinking about it a little bit. And my response to them was that I started out in a factory when I was a kid, in a small town in Tennessee. I worked and bartered my way through school. I had a family at that time. I was a prosecutor, a federal prosecutor, when I was in my 20s. I was the Watergate counsel when I was 30. I got elected to the United States Senate twice, by 20 point margins, in a state that Bill Clinton carried twice.

When I decided to do this job that Jeri was talking about, the television job, I had two jobs at that time. I’ve been called upon by the president to help judge John Roberts to be chief justice, John Roberts. I was called on by Condoleezza Rice to head up an advisory board on international security matters because that was my — one of my areas of expertise when I was in the Senate.

And I’m the father of two children under the age of five. And I said then, I said if a man can be lazy and do that, then I highly recommend it to everybody.

KING: How do you react to that critique, Jeri?

J. THOMPSON: It’s frustrating for me. I think it would be frustrating for anyone, you know, to have your — to have your spouse denigrated that way. But it’s — it’s — we did. We laughed. We really — I mean we were almost a chortle (ph) to know that he was working two full-time jobs and doing these civil service, you know, jobs on the side. And when he had — we had to keep up the highest classification for his — for him to, you know, be able to have these briefings.

F. THOMPSON: Security classification briefings.

J. THOMPSON: The security — yes, thank you — the security clearances. I mean that — that in and of itself ought to denote something, you know, about where his heart was and what he was doing. I think when there’s not much to attack, you go after these stories. And they do — they do what they can to — to look for something to try to attack him on.

He’s a slower talker. He moves a little slower. And I think that people go — and they go at that and try to think that that’s — that’s what it is. It’s just — it’s just (INAUDIBLE)...

F. THOMPSON: Slow talking, slow walking Tennessee boys (INAUDIBLE)...

J. THOMPSON: It’s just flat out ridiculous.


132 posted on 02/01/2008 2:39:08 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: cookcounty

Tom Tancredo.


133 posted on 02/01/2008 2:39:36 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: okie01

Yup, there was. They were still quite vibrant and on the rebound in the ‘90s. That was until these RINO pigs killed it.


134 posted on 02/01/2008 2:45:33 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Yet the facts are that he dallied around while the others were campaigning hard, he allowed the rumors of his announcement on July 4th to go uncorrected, he didn't announce until Labor Day, he didn't even move into Iowa in a big way until waaay too late, and as I said earlier, in South Carolina he was making one campaign stop for every 3 or 4 that McInsane was making.

At the very least his actions showed over confidence, and at the worst poor judgment and lack of enthusiasm.

His little game of "footsie" back in late summer and early fall was badly thought out and a gross mistake. Either he chose bad advisors, or he made bad decisions. Which ever it is, it was his fault, not the MSM's or Conservative talk radio's fault that his campaign never really got off the ground.

When he failed to announce back in July, I had a sneaking feeling that he had blown his chance...and I was proven right. If you want to complain about Fred Thompson not being in the battle right now, you've no one to blame but Fred.
135 posted on 02/01/2008 3:35:12 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Besides, you can't win the Presidency by talking about how hard you worked in the past. He needed to work hard in the current campaign and he didn't.

I was a part of the draft Fred movement. He was my fondest hope from the instant his name was mentioned...He is my greatest disappointment. The Texas Fred08 group was one of the most active in the nation, but I never evn got a chance to vote because he didn't put forward the effort to win.

The truth is, if he had entered into the race in July, the nomination would have been his for the asking. He pi$$ed a lot of his supporters off with that little stunt (or perhaps a more measured term, such as "alienated" would be appropriate).

I blame him for the choices with which we are now faced.
136 posted on 02/01/2008 3:43:15 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Sudetenland

While we can say in hindsight now what he should’ve done, the fact is that he thought it was absolutely ludicrous to declare for President so long before the cycle. We are reaching the point now that a candidate has to declare 2 to 4 years in advance to be “viable.” While he may have made the mistake now of not entering early enough, I don’t think it would’ve mattered. The media and the RINO establishment didn’t want him, they ignored his candidacy from the day after he declared onward, focusing on the likes of Rudy, et al, who was the preferred choice. They didn’t want a Conservative GOP candidate, they just wanted another liberal, and now they’re gonna get one. It just makes you sick.


137 posted on 02/01/2008 3:48:31 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Well, if you look at the behavior of our Republicans in Congress over the past eight years, true Conservatives like Jeff Sessions and John Cornyn have been few and far between.

It's like after the 1994 revolution, and Gingrich's and Livingston's departure, the RINO's took over...the final blow was the abandonment of DeLay, whom I didn't like as a person, but who was the last bit of glue in the caucus.

It is a sad day indeed. Unlike you I will support Romney, if I get the chance, but I will not vote for McCain no matter what. Insanity is the BIG disqualifier for the presidency.
138 posted on 02/01/2008 4:30:23 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Sudetenland

Are you sure you don’t mean Tom Coburn ? Cornyn hasn’t seemed like much of a Conservative leader (although he is better than his seatmate). I actually liked DeLay, he was a tough SOB. Hastert I didn’t care for (personally, he was OK, but as a leader, he was subpar, and the fact he was a part of the IL Combine was not good. The Combine is the reason they ran the excellent Conservative Pete Fitzgerald out of the Senate and replaced him with Obama. Had they supported Fitzgerald, Obama would still be an obscure state legislator today).

Well, I’m not voting for McCain, either, even in the general election, but he will probably be the nominee at this point, and we should pray he picks somebody like Gov. Mark Sanford or Tom Coburn as his running mate and then kicks the bucket (which I expect he will early in his term, he’s already older than his father was when he died). But Romney I’d crawl over glass to vote against. He really would make me vote for Hillary or Obama to stop him. My big disqualifier is that I won’t vote for people who lie to my face, and that guy doesn’t even know how to be honest. How he gets any Republican or Conservative support absolutely defies the imagination. I’ve been at the forefront leading the charge against him since he started to seriously float his name about 2 years ago and I have no intention whatsoever in stopping now.


139 posted on 02/01/2008 4:45:00 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: tear gas

What will it take to convince some of you Rudy lovers that your Rudy is a loser.


Certainly not a walk around New York, because Rudy cleaned up New York.

What the anti-Giuliani crowd on this board refuses to acknowledge is that Rudy was an effective leader under some of the worst circumstances an executive could have, and beat the Democrats soundly with his vision on crime, taxes, and leadership.

He’d make a great VP now, and a great president in 2012.


140 posted on 02/01/2008 8:20:00 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater
Rudy's base turned out to be composed of perverts and degenerate elitists - "guys" like Bill Paxon, Steve Forbes and Ted Olson. He also had a lot of closet cases and secret admirers like Hannity and Limpbaugh. This bunch called Rudy inevitable and tried to cram him down the throats of decent Americans.

But the public didn't buy any of it. Rudy's a loser and is unfit to be Commander in Chief.

141 posted on 02/01/2008 8:30:34 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: tear gas
Looks like your the only pervert around here. You seem to have an obsession with perversion...are you trying to come out of the closet or are you just brain dead like your posts all seem to indicate.

Better go catch up on your meds...seriously!
142 posted on 02/01/2008 8:53:12 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: tear gas

Rudy’s base turned out to be composed of perverts and degenerate elitists


False. I’m neither of those things and I’d vote for him tomorrow if he were still running.

This is why I am hopeful he is chosen as a VP, so I can vote for him in November. This will set him up nicely for a run as president in 2012, because I don’t think McCain will run for two terms in office.


143 posted on 02/01/2008 9:23:44 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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