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| January 31, 2008
Posted on 01/31/2008 8:59:55 PM PST by nuconvert
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The numbers are off as far as how many F14's are operational. It's definitely more than 3
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posted on
01/31/2008 8:59:57 PM PST
by
nuconvert
To: nuconvert
Jeepers, I wonder if the combat history of the F-14 will ever be written up as it seems it is, like it or lump it, almost exclusively Iranian.
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posted on
01/31/2008 9:04:17 PM PST
by
sinanju
To: nuconvert
Basically their entire conventional warfare capacity is laughably pitiful. I read they can field only one armored division and that, conventionally speaking, their Gulf neighbors could collectively kick their butts militarily.
All their treasure has been sunk into the nuclear program.
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posted on
01/31/2008 9:08:03 PM PST
by
sinanju
To: sinanju
There is, the US shoot down of 2 Libyan fighters in 1981 and then 2 more in 1989.
There is a good synopsis of the combat history of the F-14 on Wikedpdia. Of course, you can always watch "Top Gun." "Top Gun" is a good movie on DVD since you can skip all the cheeseball Tom Cruise scenes and just watch the planes.
The 1989 Libyan shoot down is on you tube. A lot of the video looks staged though.
I understand the need to destroy all the flyable F-14's in our inventory. Nevertheless, it is sad to think we will never see a vintage one flying at an air show in the future
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posted on
01/31/2008 10:08:31 PM PST
by
eeman
To: nuconvert
I would never say such unless I could prove such.....yet I don't even "think" they have the 3.....personal opinion of course unsubstantiated etc .....
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posted on
01/31/2008 10:14:48 PM PST
by
Squantos
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To: sinanju
“if the combat history of the F-14 will ever be written up as it seems it is, like it or lump it, almost exclusively Iranian.”
Didn’t F-14’s shoot down some Libyan jets in the Med.?
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posted on
01/31/2008 11:14:47 PM PST
by
JSteff
( This election is about the 4 or 5 Supreme Court Justices who will retire . Vote Accordingly!)
To: sinanju
"Iran can, at great effort and expense, get a dozen or so F-14s airborne. But once flying, these ancient and jury-rigged aircraft, are more target than threat."
Well that sounds like a truly formidable Islamo-Nazi air force!! One might think that after 28 years they could do better than this.... it's only those Chinese Silkworm missiles that we need worry about, plus those terroristic IRG patrol boats.....
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posted on
01/31/2008 11:19:44 PM PST
by
Enchante
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To: magslinger
To: nuconvert; cva66snipe
*Ping* to Snipe, thought you might find this thread interesting, and that your knowledge and expertise on the subject of the F-14 would be welcomed.
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posted on
02/01/2008 1:22:11 AM PST
by
mkjessup
(Any SOB who calls John F'in Kerry "his dear friend" will NEVER get my vote, no way, no how.)
To: nuconvert
Time for a “Turkey” shoot.
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posted on
02/01/2008 2:00:56 AM PST
by
60Gunner
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To: sinanju
Jeepers, I wonder if the combat history of the F-14 will ever be written up as it seems it is, like it or lump it, almost exclusively Iranian.Gee, Wally, you'd be wrong.
F-14 Combat Records
To: mkjessup
*Ping* to Snipe, thought you might find this thread interesting, and that your knowledge and expertise on the subject of the F-14 would be welcomed. I wasn't flight deck but any form of the enemy having a TOMCAT is bad news. The good news is they don't have the missile designed for it the Phoenix. If they had one function that could cause some major trouble. Another factor is if the F-14 is actually working fully functional mechanically they can out run and out maneuver our fighters. They were the best of the best Naval fighters built the Top Gun second to none.
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posted on
02/01/2008 3:56:24 AM PST
by
cva66snipe
(Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
To: nuconvert
"Iran can, at great effort and expense, get a dozen or so F-14s airborne. But once flying, these ancient and jury-rigged aircraft, are more target than threat."
The F-14 is a white elephant, prestige program for the Iranians. The harder they have to work at keeping part of their fleet flying, the more they have to spend.
Especially now that there's a big and growing perception that black-market F-14 parts are going to be increasingly hard to come by.
Making the Iranians p*ss money away is a good thing ;-) If anything, the US should be offically banning the sale of F-14 parts to drive the prices through the ceiling ... then selling the parts to Iran over the black market to help drain the Iranian treasury (which is already being hurt by the fact that Iran imports almost 1/2 of its refined gasoline, and then subsidizes it so heavily that the consumer only pays ~$.40 per gallon).
To: tanknetter
That would make for a hilarious twist on the "arms for hostages" deal. Perhaps parts could be surreptitiously traded for information on this and that... Iraqi ops and Hezbollah networks, for instance.
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posted on
02/01/2008 4:52:51 AM PST
by
sinanju
To: nuconvert
Ill-trained pilots and lack of accessories make these little more than drone targets.
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posted on
02/01/2008 4:56:49 AM PST
by
G Larry
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To: nuconvert
Iran's weapons design capabilities are primitive, but the government has some excellent publicists, Actually, they benefit from the ignorance and complicity of the western press.
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posted on
02/01/2008 5:00:33 AM PST
by
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posted on
02/01/2008 5:11:06 AM PST
by
magslinger
(cranky right-winger)
To: sinanju
I’ve heard that too.
Problem is that they don’t need a lot of weapons, just two. A nuke and a few million idiots willing to walk into machinegun fire for their shot at 72 virgins. Their strategy vs Iraq was similar to the USSR. Walk through the minefields and into incoming fire until they ran out of bullets.
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posted on
02/01/2008 5:20:41 AM PST
by
newnhdad
To: magslinger
The F-14 aircombat records reveal few actual shoot-downs of enemy combatants. Specifically 4 Libyans and 1 Iraqi helo. All these were accomplished with the Sidewinder (heat-seeking) missles and not the much heralded Phoenix Missle. The Phoenix system was designed exclusively for the Tomcat as a tool to “Fire and forget” six hostile targets. We must guess the Iranians have no way to maintain Phoenix systems air to air capabilities and will hang Sidewinders or similar devices. Suspect F-14 platform will be for their cruise missles or a suicide aircraft to attach CAPITAL targets (CVs).
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posted on
02/01/2008 6:32:20 AM PST
by
Broker
(Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
To: Broker
Yes, The F-14 itself is a guided missile. Aircraft Carriers in the Persian Gulf need to closely monitor their air radar, Squawk IDs and authentication procedures. Battle groups sea whiz and SA missile systems; up and ready????
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posted on
02/01/2008 6:54:42 AM PST
by
Broker
(Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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