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Disabled Children Better Off Aborted: House of Lords Peeress
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/1/08 | Hilary White

Posted on 02/01/2008 5:27:18 PM PST by wagglebee

LONDON, February 1, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Seriously disabled children should be considered non-persons and would be better off having been aborted, according to a Peer speaking in the House of Lords Tuesday. Attempting to couch her assertion in terms of children's "rights", Molly Baroness Meacher told the Lords that children born with severe disabilities are "not viable people".

The comments came as the Lords debated an amendment to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill, put forward by Lady Swinton, Baroness Masham of Ilton, that would have protected unborn disabled children from abortion after the 24 week gestational time limit. The amendment was defeated by 89 votes to 22.

Under Britain's abortion law, children judged to have some form of disability, including such comparatively minor disabilities as club foot or cleft palate, can be aborted up to the time of natural birth.

Referring to two children she knows who were born prematurely with severe cerebral palsy, Baroness Meacher said, "They were natural births. Those two children cannot breathe naturally; they have to be helped to breathe. They will never talk. They lie on their backs and can do nothing."

"My belief is that there are children, born at those very early ages, who are not viable people. It would be in their best interests to have been aborted."

She said, "I want to speak about the rights of the child. The Mental Capacity Act refers to the child having capacity; if they do not have capacity, it is important for the professionals to consider their best interests."

"There rests my case. We need to consider the best interests of these babies."

John Smeaton, national director of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children, wrote that Baroness Meacher's comments support what SPUC has said about recent British legislation, that it creates a mandate to kill the disabled and vulnerable. SPUC has pointed out regarding the Mental Capacity Act, "that [the term] 'best interests' in that legislation can be defined in such a way that mentally incapacitated patients may now be killed in their 'best interests'"

"Baroness Meacher," Smeaton said, "clearly considers that her own capacity and achievements in life put her right to life in a different category from the right to life owed to people with cerebral palsy - that she is 'viable person' but 'they' are not 'viable people'."

Others in the Lords, however, do not share Baroness Meacher's extreme form of eugenic thinking. Robert Shirley, Lord Ferrers, said he was "apprehensive" about abortion at early stages "because you are destroying some form of life", and "deeply apprehensive" about abortion in later stages, since it is "difficult to tell...when [the child] becomes a human being with a soul."

Lord Ferrers said he hoped the amendment would pass, "because I do not think it right that human beings should decide at one moment that this child, who is a human being, should not be born."

Baroness Tonge, a leading supporter of the Voluntary Euthanasia Society, said that the children referred to were not "disabled human beings" but "grossly abnormal human beings". Citing the "grotesque appearance" of children with anencephaly, Tonge said, "many of those whom I have seen bear little resemblance to human beings."

But Baroness Williams of Crosby said the permission to kill the disabled before birth is at odds with the nation's efforts to help disabled people throughout their lives. "We have a society where once people are born we increasingly go to extraordinary lengths to look after them if they are disabled."

"One of the things that really frightens me is that, if we pick out the potentially disabled at the age of 25 or 26 weeks, we will sooner or later develop an attitude towards the severely disabled who have been disabled since birth," she said.

Contact:

Molly Baroness Meacher
The House of Lords,
London, SW1A 0PW
U.K.


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"My belief is that there are children, born at those very early ages, who are not viable people. It would be in their best interests to have been aborted."

She said, "I want to speak about the rights of the child. The Mental Capacity Act refers to the child having capacity; if they do not have capacity, it is important for the professionals to consider their best interests."

"There rests my case. We need to consider the best interests of these babies."

What a monster!

1 posted on 02/01/2008 5:27:21 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/01/2008 5:27:45 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 02/01/2008 5:28:13 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Molly’s got a special place in hell reserved just for *her*, not for those helpless innocent children she advocates murdering!!! >:-(


4 posted on 02/01/2008 5:29:31 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: wagglebee

I thought “British aristocracy” was another name for “non-viable people”.


5 posted on 02/01/2008 5:30:11 PM PST by aruanan
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...children born with severe disabilities are "not viable people..

I seem to recall a mustachioed failed painter and paperhanger from Austria that had the same view... Adolf,.. Adolf,.. Adolf Schicklegrubber was his name I think.

6 posted on 02/01/2008 5:30:51 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: wagglebee

Up to the professionals to consider their best interests.

This person if you can call her that is a monster.


7 posted on 02/01/2008 5:30:59 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: wagglebee

“I approve”

signed, Maragaret Sanger


8 posted on 02/01/2008 5:31:10 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: wagglebee
What? Does London have vampires posing as officials now? How revolting!
9 posted on 02/01/2008 5:32:08 PM PST by Earthdweller
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To: wagglebee

Welcome to “Universal Health Care”. This is what Hitlery and Osama want to bring to this country.


10 posted on 02/01/2008 5:33:20 PM PST by DFG
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To: wagglebee

Molly Baronness Meacher.

Behold the liberal.

11 posted on 02/01/2008 5:34:49 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: pillut48

The abortion of the disabled doesn’t call their humanity into question, but our own.


12 posted on 02/01/2008 5:34:53 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("He who is not angry when there is a just cause for anger, sins." Augustine.)
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To: wagglebee

This is deranged megalomania any way you slice it. To think she has the right to determine who would die and who would live.


13 posted on 02/01/2008 5:35:09 PM PST by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: wagglebee

My daughter has severe brain damage. She was very sick when she was a baby and almost died.

We decided we didn’t want to know whether or not she had brain damage when she was a baby. We decided to treat her normally, and then if there was a problem we would get an MRI.

Well, she sat up on time, walked on time, ran on time, but she didn’t talk on time. The doctor’s thought she didn’t have brain damage because she was doing okay in every area, except speech.

When she was 3, we did an MRI and it showed lots of brain damage. The doctors were surprised that she could walk and run. They said they would think she should be in a wheelchair and severely disabled.

Now at 11, she is extremely gifted in math, can read/write, and is doing extremely well. She does have problems with speech still, and she was just diagnosed with a seizure disorder. However, she is a great kid!!!!!!!

Doctor’s don’t always know the possibilties of how a child will turn out.

My husband and I also think my daughter’s disability has given her things. She is an extremely hard worker, and she is very goal oriented. (Grant it, I wish she had a normal brain, but I can still look at the positives of her situation.)

This is just a sad article.


14 posted on 02/01/2008 5:35:33 PM PST by luckystarmom
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We need to consider the best interests of these babies."

That is not what is going on here.

15 posted on 02/01/2008 5:37:23 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: stinkerpot65

Mrs. Doubtfire doesn't look very viable to me, if you get my drift.

16 posted on 02/01/2008 5:37:34 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: stinkerpot65

She doesn’t look viable. Yeech.


17 posted on 02/01/2008 5:37:35 PM PST by thecabal
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To: wagglebee

This is Tony Blair’s new & renovated House of Lords. He kicked out the old inherited peerage, and it is now packed full of liberals raised to the peerage by the Labour Party.

He did this in large part because the original House of Lords would have opposed this sort of atrocity.


18 posted on 02/01/2008 5:38:27 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wagglebee
"Under Britain's abortion law, children judged to have some form of disability, including such comparatively minor disabilities as club foot or cleft palate, can be aborted up to the time of natural birth."

Who's next?


19 posted on 02/01/2008 5:41:03 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: wagglebee

Hawking needs to leave Britain asap...this lady may propose a post partum abortion law.


20 posted on 02/01/2008 5:41:18 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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