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To: Cindy

Generally speaking.

That’s pretty general considering we see a damn near daily report on police abuse of citizens, not to mention their collaboration in various forms of unconstitutional behavior, using the asset forfeiture abomination to enrich their departments, Serpico, the various scandals in the NYPD in the 70s and the LAPD in the 90s, the utter corruption that rotted away at the New Orleans PD, racist ATF gatherings with “nigger hunting licenses” obtained at said events, burning children alive after a murderous raid, murdering people at Ruby Ridge, the Elian Gonzales disaster, Amadou Diallo, Abner Louima, Rodney King, the various Brett Darrow run-ins with local police stating they will manufacture evidence against him on tape, the teacher beaten by feds in New Orleans, the Iraq war veteran shot while complying with officers directions, the deaths of who knows how many beloved pets, innocent human beings and even the guilty who did not deserve a summary death sentence.

So after all those exceptions, I’d say your definition of ‘general’ is probably a bit less exacting than mine.


8 posted on 02/02/2008 2:38:50 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Skywalk

Great, you go back 30 years to find scandal.

For the record, there are more than 600,000 cops in the U.S.


9 posted on 02/02/2008 2:42:43 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Skywalk

Hmmm...”near daily report...”

Well, I don’t see those reports.

I guess if one was reading those way-out-there leftist sites; maybe one would read a ‘near daily report.”

A good morning to you.


10 posted on 02/02/2008 2:44:05 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Skywalk

Golly, don’t the police ever do anything good?


11 posted on 02/02/2008 2:44:37 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Skywalk; Cindy

There are good and bad in every single group you could put together in our world. This is not to say that the examples you brought up don’t happen — but, the way you are putting forth the assertion in response to Cindy’s post makes one believe that you feel EVERY cop out there is interested in participating in this sort of illegal, abusive, harassing activity — against the very citizens they have sworn to protect and defend.

I completely understand being wary — as I said, there are good and bad in every group — but at the same time, there is not a need to be overly paranoid, either.

We need to work to change some of the regulations concerning liability that make people “above the law” when it comes to these abuses, and that would make the situation immensely better for all concerned. Then we would still have some of the security that a police presence provides, but at the same time be more protected from abuses.

As for NY making an effort to increase security on the Subways themselves — I say, good job! I’m sure the people of NY are mostly of the mindset that this would’ve been a good idea years ago — even without the added element of a terrorist threat.


21 posted on 02/02/2008 2:59:57 AM PST by LibertyRocks ("Islam - The Religion of Pieces" -- quote from LR's "Infidel & Proud" Daughter)
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To: Skywalk

Source???


41 posted on 02/02/2008 4:31:12 AM PST by cowdog77 (Circle the Wagons)
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To: Skywalk
I'm familiar with pretty much all of those incidents you mention. I would point out a couple of things. Several of those were perpetrated by agents of the Federal government under the Clinton I administration (a foreshadowing of what will happen under Clinton II). Rodney King brought it on himself. NO sympathy for him.

Ultimately, I'm just puzzled by this development. How is having the cops in the subways with full auto M4's going to stop a terrorist? They operate by stealth anyway. It's not like the cops have a special radar that points out the terrorists like in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". I guess it fits in overall with liberal philosophy that "assault weapons" are so deadly that they'll kill even the worst terrorist, or some muddle headed thinking like that.

44 posted on 02/02/2008 4:54:19 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: Skywalk; Cindy

If you only knew how informed Cindy is, you’d bite your tongue. Yes the Long March has corrupted many but many stand right and true.

CINDY and Honest Law Enforcement Officer bump!


49 posted on 02/02/2008 5:21:05 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Skywalk
It seems that you have a problem with law enforcement given your generaliztation. I am not an expert on all of these but I do know the Amadou Diallo and Abner Louima cases well.
Diallo was an illegal alien who ran from police. The police were looking for an armed rapist. Diallo never listened to the police, ignoring their requests to put his hands up. Instead he decided to go to a dark hallway, and only then pull SOMETHING from his pocket. He was a Darwin Award candidate, not a victim.
Abner Louima was victimized, but so was Officer Charles Schwarz who was convicted essentially for defending himself from a false accusation by pointing out that he was not in the bathroom. http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20010913_siegel.html

You are conflating police misconduct with decisions by civilians. Shame on you.

106 posted on 02/03/2008 3:17:08 AM PST by rmlew (Huckabee flip flops so much it makes Romney cringe)
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