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Barack and Jack
Townhall.com ^ | February 3, 2008 | Davis R. Stokes

Posted on 02/03/2008 4:52:29 AM PST by Kaslin

With the torch being recently passed by the Kennedy family to a new generation of politicians, it remains to be seen just exactly what impact all of this will actually have on how people vote in the twenty-four primaries and caucuses scheduled for Super Tuesday. But in keeping with the whole Camelot legend, style is again trumping substance. Since the Obama campaign and a substantial number of Democrats and Independents appear to be buying in to the “heir apparent” notion, it is certainly appropriate to look at the historical record.

The truth is that Barack Obama and John F. Kennedy are not only two different people from different times and places - they are actually quite dissimilar on most matters of philosophy and substance. Much of the talk about the connection between the two men involves the vague sense that Obama makes people feel something – like they have heard JFK did.

Hello politics of MEANING – that wonderful cultural phenomenon that has one vocabulary, but many dictionaries.

Let’s look at some of the vast differences between Barack and Jack. First, it’s important to be fair and say that there are at least a couple of areas where Obama is unlike Kennedy that are actually quite redeeming and compelling. For example, Barack Obama clearly has a commitment to his wife that is very much unlike JFK’s pattern of promiscuity and pathological adultery. Also, Barack takes his faith seriously. Jack didn’t. The Senator from Illinois has a solid track record as a member of his church. The President from Massachusetts was, for all practical purposes, involved with his church in name only (see my column from 12/27/07 for more about JFK and his faith).

In fact, most comparisons between the Barack Obama of today and the John F. Kennedy of the early 1960s will yield compelling evidence that Barack is, well, to sound sort of Bentson-esque, “…no Jack Kennedy.”

Jack Kennedy was a World War II war veteran and hero. He spoke on matters of defense and national security as one who had been there. That kind of life experience tends to be transformative and tempering. It also lends credibility to rhetoric.

Jack Kennedy served three terms in the House of Representatives and was elected twice to the Senate.

Jack Kennedy was a Cold Warrior. He was sufficiently hawkish when necessary and often worked aggressively behind the scenes (shall we say, covertly?) during the era when massive thermo-nuclear war was the terror du jour.

In fact, it was JFK’s preoccupation with international affairs that is often cited as the reason he was actually, at best, lukewarm on the issue of civil rights during his administration. He was, in the words of author Nick Bryant, “The Bystander” – a leader who squandered opportunities. It would fall to President Lyndon Johnson to follow through, by that time having full access to political capital generated by the Camelot myth.

Much is made of JFK’s speech at American University in June of 1963 as being indicative of some kind of personal evolution (it is no accident that the recent Kennedy/Obama anointing took place there). His address that day includes familiar sound bites – phrases JFK revisionists cling to as thematic to his entire Presidency. But, his rhetoric in that speech should really be seen as the fruit of his experience.

American University Jack was not the Jack of the 1960 presidential campaign. His 1963 thoughts were the reflections of a leader who had been tempered in his own administration by the realities of what he had referred to in his inaugural as “a hard and bitter peace.

But flowery rhetoric notwithstanding, the facts are that President Kennedy remained resolute in his actions (louder than words, etc.) well after that speech. Some of his machinations were not fully known by the public at large until many years later.

One compelling example of this is seen in what was going on in Vietnam at the time. Camelot-driven revisionism would perpetuate the idea - as fact - that Kennedy was going to move away from U.S. involvement in Vietnam (we had roughly 16,000 “advisors” there at the time) and that had he lived Vietnam would never have escalated the way it did, militarily and culturally. Such wishful hindsight, however, ignores things like Kennedy’s involvement with the coup that overthrew South Vietnamese President, Ngo Dinh Diem just three weeks before his own death in Dallas on November 22, 1963 – and long after his olive branch oration in June. While, there is no evidence that JFK intended events to lead to Diem’s murder, it is hard to believe any savvy leader would find such a scenario difficult to envision.

Actually, a case can be made that the instability of the post-Diem South Vietnamese government was a major factor in fateful decisions Lyndon Johnson, JFK’s successor, faced and made along the way to quagmire in Southeast Asia. Even Robert Dallek, who wrote biographies of both men (JFK & LBJ), has said that the issue of what Kennedy would have done had he lived “intrigues biographers” but can “never be settled.”

Jack Kennedy was a tough warrior – who hated to lose. The peace movement of the later 1960s, even the metamorphosis of his brother, Bobby, from a man who wanted to “get” Castro, into the dovish candidate of 1968, came about long after the days of the Bay of Pigs, Berlin Wall, and Cuban Missile Crisis.

It also needs to be remembered that the fairest comparison between candidate Barack Obama and John F. Kennedy cannot be with the legend of Camelot in the aftermath of his death. Nor can he even be fairly compared with the man who spoke at American University in June of 1963.

Frankly, we need to compare Mr. Obama with CANDIDATE Kennedy in 1960. And, ironically it is in that context that we DO find a point of similarity. John F. Kennedy was derided as INEXPERIENCED at the time. The list of Democratic luminaries who mocked Kennedy as woefully unprepared for the presidency in the days of the 1960 primaries included the likes of Eleanor Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Adlai Stevenson, and Lyndon Johnson. The elders of the party thought the young Senator should wait his turn. And, in the fall campaign Richard Nixon tried the same thing. It didn’t work for him, either.

OK – maybe Barack is a little like Jack, after all.


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1 posted on 02/03/2008 4:52:30 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

JFK served in the House of Representatives for three terms (six years), and was elected to the Senate twice (1952 and 1958). Obambi never served in the House of Representatives, and is still in his first term in the Senate. If JFK was chided as being inexperienced, then Obambi is woefully inexperienced.

The presidency is not the place for OJT (on-the-job-training).


2 posted on 02/03/2008 5:14:22 AM PST by ought-six
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To: ought-six
The presidency is not the place for OJT (on-the-job-training).

Only if the candidate is a republican /s

3 posted on 02/03/2008 5:29:07 AM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin
"Ich bin ein Berliner"
-- Jack Kennedy 1963

"Ich bin ein Moonbat"
-- Barack Obama 2008

4 posted on 02/03/2008 5:40:58 AM PST by 6SJ7
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To: Kaslin
fred "the beetle" barnes has a man crush on O'Barnum. he looks like a 13 year old girl when he talks about O'Barnum.

Lest we forget, it's beetle barnes' weakly standard that has been carrying water for mcqueeg lo these many months. the beltway boys have been directed away from conservatism.

they'll let us know when its safe to vote for the gop again, right now its O'Barnum all the way.

5 posted on 02/03/2008 5:41:48 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Kaslin
Jack Kennedy was a tough warrior

Yes, he was and brother RFK was even more of a terror to the enemies.. domestic political and ideological "enemies" that is. As for the world's bad guys.. well..

Two wide-body heavyweights of the MSM, both supporters to the max (and beyond) of JFK speak of the President:

James Reston "was the first to interview Kennedy after the fateful Vienna summit in June 1961 and found him angry and shaken. Khrushchev had bullied and threatened the new president, presenting him with a deadline for signing a peace treaty giving Communist East Germany control over access to Berlin. Collecting himself [after Krushchev had continued the humiliation at a special end-of-conference one-on-one meeting Kennedy asked for], Kennedy spelled out the actions he planned to take to demonstrate American resolve [i.e., Kennedy's "I'll show him!"]. On his return to Washington, he gave orders to send more than 15,000 American advisers to Vietnam. Reston asked in astonishment 'why Vietnam?' It was an action that in Reston's eyes signaled the slide toward eventual defeat. He insists that the connection between the Vienna summit and Vietnam accounted for the president's fateful choice." [my comments]

Joseph W. Alsop set aside his judgment "that [Kennedy] was an indifferent legislator more interested in 'pretty girls' than lawmaking" and worked "diligently to see that 'his man' captured the White House" in 1960. On the way back to Washington from Vienna JFK met with his good buddy Alsop in London. "Kennedy's first words were that he was not going to give in to Khrushchev no matter what the dangers."

The Vienna and Viet Nam connection? Yes, and there's also the Bay of Pigs and Vienna connection. As I recall there was much Russian taunting and ridicule heaped on the hapless president because he had chickened out.

Berlin? Not enough courage to confront Krushchev directly a third time -- so JFK would prove that he's a man via Viet Nam. The missile crisis? Wouldn't have happened if the Soviets had failed to mop the floor with "one of America's 'greatest' presidents," IMO.

All we need is another JFK. Lord help us.

BTW, Reston was no ordinary journalist reporting from afar. He was a close friend of JFK and he was the man Kennedy confided in in Vienna and the very first man JFK talked to at length after his second humiliation by Khruschev.

6 posted on 02/03/2008 6:10:49 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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