Posted on 02/03/2008 10:53:04 PM PST by Maelstorm
On Sunday, December 16, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romny told NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Tim Russert, “The plan we put together in Massachusetts I think is working in Massachusetts.…I happen to like what we did. I think it’s a good model for other states.” Merrill Matthews here offers a different view.
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Of course nobody knows exactly how he'll respond to having his feet held to the fire by the grass-roots but we do know McCain will feel no compuction about kicking us in the groin and poking us in the eye.
Like I said, I could be wrong but I think our chances of having our voices heard stands a better chance with Romney.
Simple answer - no.
His explanation was that people who could afford coverage were blowing it off and going and getting care that would wind up being free. Since cutting off free health care would never fly the plan was to force people to pony up.
God forbid anyone in Massachusetts should have to pay their own tab....
Hillary has announced that she now wants to garnish wages for forced coverage, just like Romney did in 2005. That must make her a conservative in the eyes of Romney supporters.
Of course, Mass-Care is a horrible idea with a worse implementation. And it will be seen for what it is before this election cycle is over.
The difference between Romney and McCain is that Romney will acknowledge that “there are problems with the system, and that it’s not suitable for one-size-fits-all National Healthcare but will serve as a learning experience to the states who want to implement something like this”.
McCain, on the other hand will say that the “system worked, and if it didn’t than it’s only because it didn’t have the time or enough money to work, and we have to make sure that with some minor tweaks to the system it’s implemented on a national level before it’s too late for people who are dying or go bankrupt due to lack of medical insurance”.
I really don’t know how much this will “play” in Tuesday’s vote. Mitt made it work while he was in office in MA. But a Lefty governor came in and messed up the works, including ending Mitt’s tough on illegals efforts. He certainly can’t be blamed for that. Americans will usually give a pol the benefit of the doubt...
Any government-subsidized, “universal” health care is a poor, and likely dangerous, idea. I think in the long run it will do more damage to the economy and society than, for example, amnesty for illegals.
As far as the president is concerned, it comes down to his view of federalism. Is there any sign that Romney endorses the notion that the FEDERAL government should play any role (let alone an expanded role) in the delivery, funding, or regulation of health services? If the scope of Romney's health-care stupidity is limited to state-wide application, then I can overlook it. Stupid ideas or not, such powers are reserved for the states (or, more accurately, are not related to those expressly enumerated functions of the fedgov), to be freely voted upon by people within the state, and limited in scope to those within the state only. Nationalization is the cancer we cannot easily escape.
One additional thought... If Romneycare will be used against him in general election by Democrats, he will not be too proud and ego-maniacal to unconditionally defend it - he’ll admit that it has “a lot of problems, especially if administered by big government bureaucracy” and this will not be damaging to Romney’s candidacy (might even enhance it, admitting that he may have made a mistake as a Governor of very liberal state hellbent on “universal care”) - but this will only seriously damage or kill the idea of National Healthcare idea, nip it in the bud as well as do damage to Democrat candidate running on that platform.
This could be a win-win for Romney and conservatives in general election. I can’t imagine McCain copping to anything wrong in his long government career.
You’ve GOT to be kidding, Rudder! I highly doubt that Romney’s form of quasi-Socialized health care (not that I favor it—I don’t)
-Kills 25 Americans per day
-Changes our culture from English to Spanish without assimilation
Anyway, you want proof? Here are some stats to mull over while hundreds of illegal Mexicans pour across our Southern Border tonight:
From Liberty Post
Immigration/US Borders
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Title: New FBI Statistics on Crimes Committed by Illegal Aliens
Source: Capolitical News
URL Source: http://www.capoliticalnews.com/s/spip.php? article25
Published: Nov 13, 2006
Author: none
Post Date: 2006-11-13 18:30:37 by supertracpak
16 Comments
(Says supertacpak)
“After reading these statistics, I could cry. We have an invasion and no one seems to care. Worse, the “McKennedy” Bill (McCain and Kennedy) would give legal status to these law breakers. If we want to control murder, rape and vicious crimes, we may not need Three Strikes, what we need is to find and deport the criminals who are here as illegal aliens. The FBI already has a list of sexual predators here illegally. In May they, along with the Salinas, California police picked up 40 of them. Why not pick up the thousands of sexual predators that the FBI know are here in this county illegally?
Now is the time for crime groups, police and law enforcement groups to stop playing politics, stop endorsing candidates, and to start enforcing the law. Our public officials must act now, the citizens of Simi Valley, Ventura County, of California and of the nation are not safe. Read this FBI/ statistics and weep for the victims of our government not enforcing the laws.”
These statistics were published at www.polipundit.com
Write your thoughts directly on the web site for all to see and discuss. Pass this along to your friends, family and especially to law enforcement and elected officials. Ask them why they are not doing more to protect our community from the criminal element of the illegal aliens. Steve Frank
INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
CRIME STATISTICS 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually
53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes”.
47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.
63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens
66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.
BIRTH STATISTICS 380,000 plus “anchor babies” were born in the U.S. in 2005 to illegal alien parents, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S.citizens.
97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayers.
66% plus of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers
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Evidence? Right.
Be careful using the phrase 'holy hell' the MittWitts will call you a bigot. They will also call you a bigot when you oppose RomneyCare and $50 government subsidized abortions.
I haven’t had health insurance for many years and no has paid my tab. I’ve paid for everything myself. Obama’s health plan at least gives you the ability to opt out.
"Conservative" was not what FReepers were calling Romney in 2005.
Romney Does Flip and Forces Catholic Hospitals to Distribute Morning-After-Pill
Give it time: rationed care, denial of service for chronically ill, elderly, life-style/diet issues, unlimited abortion,...these things are already occurring in other countries.
You don’t live in Mass.
Why did you feel the need to chime in then?
Err... I live in the USA. Romney is trying to become my president and I don't want his socialized health care. Even if he doesn't win, Mass is asking for a federal bailout for their failing socialized health care and I might end up having to pay for Romney's screwups.
Here's what Ronald Reagan said about this kind of stuff:
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else?"
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