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Updated encryption tool for al-Qaeda backers improves on first version, researcher says
Computerworld ^ | Jaikumar Vijayan

Posted on 02/04/2008 4:10:52 PM PST by balls

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To: Moonman62

Not a problem if AQ programmed it themselves, which has been the point of my posts: the algorithms are not that hard. I teach them to undergrad math, engineering, and CS majors about once every three years. You don’t think AQ has been able to radicalize a few Muslim CS majors? (None from my classes—I’ve not had any Muslim students in them,.)


21 posted on 02/04/2008 4:46:02 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Moonman62
The OLD trick when encryption programs started back in the day was to put a Trojan into the program (and even modem flash memory)to track and send keystrokes.

I wonder if anyone in the NSA is still around to remember this trick. They could disassemble it , place the Trojan in, then reassemble and post it again on the Internet. Nothing is safe electronically. I wonder what FIASA (?) would say about this ? If the program is used for illegal purposes (keys must be registered) , then it should be no problem.

22 posted on 02/04/2008 4:50:57 PM PST by Tinman73 (Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
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To: The_Reader_David

ok, I trust you. I’m more a patent expert than security expert.


23 posted on 02/04/2008 4:52:11 PM PST by tanaka
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To: The_Reader_David
But if Computer World has it, I'm assuming that means our guys have it, and that brings up all sorts of possibilities. We've also captured some of their laptops in Iraq I'm sure.

IIRC, Al Qaeda means "the base" and that comes from a computer database Bin Laden used to keep track of the organization.

24 posted on 02/04/2008 4:54:36 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Get PGP and encrypt your e-mail (or learn to program and write non-standard encryption protocols to give the NSA fits if you feel left out.)

Funny you should say that. I developed a short encryption program a couple of years ago which doesn't use any of the standard algorithms. I contacted NSA about it. I gave them a brief description, but for security reasons no detailed description. I told them if they needed a detailed description to contact me. I got a letter back from them telling me to go through the procedure of soliciting business ( like a contractor does ). I wrote them back saying that I was not selling it, I was offering it to them. They sent back a letter saying they were not interested. Now from the description I wrote to them, anyone familiar with cryptography would have requested a second look. Instead they brush me aside, not knowing my background. It seems the NSA has the attitude - " If it not created here, it is no good " By the way, I am a Mathematician with a background in Number Theory

25 posted on 02/04/2008 5:12:45 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: Cicero

You said — “Not sure it makes any difference. There are plenty of terrorists already in the country who would have access to PGP and other encryption techniques.”

No, it doesn’t make any difference, because PGP was “international” years ago and the U.S. Government could not stop it from going international. Just read up on Phil Zimmerman and what he went through in order to *make sure* that PGP went “international”.

There was nothing at all that the U.S. government could do to stop it. And even it the U.S. had made draconian laws preventing any exports and jailing thousands of people — does that mean that the U.S. Government thinks that the only programmers that exist (for making encryption program) are in the U.S. (and don’t exist in any other country in the world)?

It’s ludicrous to think that the U.S. could stop something like that, which other countries and other programmers are fully capable of making...

Regards,
Star Traveler


26 posted on 02/04/2008 5:48:16 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Dog

Who has told you that you can’t have unbreakable encryption? Whoever told you that — told you a lie...

Regards,
Star Traveler


27 posted on 02/04/2008 5:50:55 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: tanaka

I haven’t heard any evidence (of any kind, at all) that the U.S. Government is able to crack PGP in a nanosecond, much less in a million years....

Regards,
Star Traveler


28 posted on 02/04/2008 5:54:17 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: TheCipher
It seems the NSA has the attitude - " If it not created here, it is no good "

Or maybe that year's budget for evaluating unproven encryption methods had already been spent.

29 posted on 02/04/2008 6:11:59 PM PST by TChad
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To: Star Traveler

Sure, a shared one-time random binary pad (or for old school types, random letter stream Vigenere key) provides perfect security, provided the key is never reused and not intercepted.

The trick is to exchange keys over a monitored channel without interception. Quantum encryption is one suggestion, and I’ve heard another that depends on ‘Alice’ and ‘Bob’ having a direct wire link.


30 posted on 02/04/2008 6:53:33 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947527/posts?page=1035#1035


31 posted on 02/05/2008 12:48:42 AM PST by Cindy
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To: balls; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

32 posted on 02/05/2008 5:09:50 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: balls

it wouldn’t have made a difference. Americans are not the only ones who can write code.


33 posted on 02/05/2008 5:23:19 AM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: balls

>>Our encryption technology and web servers are helping Al-qaeda. I wonder how different things would be if we had not eliminated the encryption export rules a few years ago.<<

A lot of the effect of those rules was a brain drain that sent encryption research overseas. It only hurt lawful researchers.


34 posted on 02/05/2008 5:27:19 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: balls

A tool is just a tool. When PGP first became popular around the world various democracy movements praised it since it allowed them some protection from the death squads.


35 posted on 02/05/2008 5:46:51 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: southernerwithanattitude
I thought aLgore invented encryption.

He was one of encryption's biggest enemies and wanted the government to have a back door into your private encrypted communications (honestly, we won't abuse this ability).

36 posted on 02/05/2008 6:14:50 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: TheCipher
Instead they brush me aside, not knowing my background. It seems the NSA has the attitude - " If it not created here, it is no good "

Not really, as the current standard wasn't developed by the NSA. They just went through a round of selection a few years ago and are probably not too interested. The best way to get your method accepted is to publish it in cryptographic circles. Flaws are found in the vast majority of implementations. Even a couple of Bruce Schneier's attempts failed to withstand peer review (his MacGuffin cipher died really fast).

Now if you think you have the perfect hash algorithm, I believe they're looking for one.

37 posted on 02/05/2008 6:24:53 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: balls
I wonder how different things would be if we had not eliminated the encryption export rules a few years ago.

Yeah, cuz furriners are all too stoopid to do that complicated computer stuff unless they can crib notes from a real Amerikun.

Sheesh.

38 posted on 02/05/2008 6:28:00 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: The_Reader_David

Actually, IIRC the basic RSA patents have expired, so that one at least is freely available (though some of the later refinements might still be under patent).


39 posted on 02/05/2008 6:29:11 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: gondramB

And don’t forget making our companies less competitive since they could only ship products with 40-bit encryption while foreigners’ products could ship with anything.

I understand the reason for export controls, but there was a point where the encryption controls did more harm than good, and that point was crossed years before the controls were dropped.


40 posted on 02/05/2008 6:54:01 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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