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Continued: "I think the Romney supporters are on better empirical ground to argue that their candidate's problem has been that Bush supporters and strong conservatives simply have not made up a sufficiently large share of the vote - and that "true" Republicans need to "wake up." Accordingly, their goal should be to turn out more of their voters. Maybe they will be able to do this in California today."

My comment: This article is very long. My apologies for the numerous edits.

1 posted on 02/04/2008 10:12:40 PM PST by GVnana
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To: GVnana
Huckabee voters have a +36% favorable rating of McCain, but a -4% rating of Romney.

I'm not surprised.

2 posted on 02/04/2008 10:14:59 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Six SCOTUS justices will be 70 or older in January of next year.)
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To: GVnana
Intresting Frank Lutz focus group. Made up of “Moderates”. Most are supporting Obama. When asked if any would support McCain NONE of them said they would cross over.

McCain is being nominated by people who have NO intention of voting for him in the General Election

3 posted on 02/04/2008 10:25:02 PM PST by MNJohnnie (McCain is about as tough on Foreign Policy as the next opinion poll)
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To: GVnana

If I have learned nothing else this year it’s that those states who somehow got their primaries in early have waaaaaaaay more influence than their politics, population and prevailing idealogy warrant.

New Hampshire? Iowa? Michigan?

Which is not to necessarily cast aspersions on those states save New Hampshire which is really a little state full of weirdos. But the truth is that ANY state out ahead of the curve ball with its primaries matters greatly and carries way more influence than deserved.

Hey, heh, just ask the Rudy G campaign.

I’ll allow as this year was a bit exceptional perhaps in that the world knew that Hillary was running and the media was chomping at the bit. Barack Obama and John McCain came out of nowhere and before we could blink these two candidates, one a lightweight and one despised by a large portion of his own party, in that order, leaped to the fore of the national media that they did not deserve. That “aw shucks” guy Huckabee too got more scrutiny than deserved.

And before we knew it, the vast majority of us Americans who barely had a chance to pay attention, are facing nominations for our country’s presidency based on the votes of maybe five states.

IF McCain gets the nomination it will be more about timing than anything. For given enough time Republicans would not nominate this guy.

Well hell I don’t know the answer. I’ve just made the realization.

Me and Rudy G.


14 posted on 02/05/2008 4:00:39 AM PST by Fishtalk (If you liked the above post, remember I've got a Blog you might like to visit.)
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I am a long time Conservative Freeper, and I am voting for McCain. I am not an "uninvolved niave" voter, that most Freepers claim that I am. I am not a "liberal", I am not even all that "moderate". I am a pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, fiscal, and most importantly, pro-security Conservative!

McCain was not my first choice, and I wish he wasn't old, and somewhat cranky, but given my choices he has my vote.

I have done my best to not knock any of the candidates, because I will support whoever wins the nomination in the end.

In the end my vote goes down to two things. He is not Romney or Huck. My problems with Romney are TRUST!!!! I find him to be a panderer, and I am not sure I believe his recent conversions. I know 100% I would never have even considered him 5-10 years ago, so why would I choose him now. Besides his words, what proof is there that he has changed? With McCain, I know I could have voted for him 5-10 years ago, and although I have reservations now, they are not out weighed by the fact that at least I believe him, something I can not say about Romney.

As for Huck, I have huge problems with his foreign policy, and some of his fiscal history, so he also will not get my vote.

All I am doing is asking Freepers to think about who they are insulting (long time Freepers like myself) when they automatically give that knee jerk reaction of if we are not with you, we are against you. I have principled reasons for voting for who I am. I assume you do too. I won't question your sanity, if you don't question mine.

And for all of those out there that are slamming McCain on abortion, and gun votes. They may not be perfect, but in the case of abortion, John McCain has voted pro life his entire career, with the exception of stem cell research (which Romney sometimes agrees with). NARAL gave him a 0%, that doesn't seem prochoice to me. For guns, there was the horrendous "gun show loophole" that McCain backed, but he has voted consistently against the AWB (Can Romney say the same?) and also voted against the Brady Bill (which Romney was in strong favor of, again in the past, don't know how he feels today).

I am not trying to change anyones vote, I am just saying that please be respectful of others opinions.

Rant over!

16 posted on 02/05/2008 4:24:18 AM PST by codercpc (On the day abortion becomes illegal, I want to Thank God, and not praise allah)
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To: GVnana
Vote John McCain
When you care enough to shiv America's best.

19 posted on 02/05/2008 6:20:01 AM PST by syriacus (Vote John McCain--When you care enough to shiv America's best.)
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