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Hitler Assumes Control of Army (Real time + 70 years)
Microfiche-New York Times archives
| 2/5/38
| Otto D. Tolischus
Posted on 02/05/2008 9:14:27 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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What the author of this article didn't say, because he had no way of knowning, was that this move paved the way for Hitler's planned war against the other European states. Three months earlier, Nov. 5, 1937, Hitler called his top subordinates - Blomberg, Fritsch, Raeder, Goering, and Neurath - together for a meeting at which he revealed his irrevocable intention to go to war. Blomberg and Fritsch saw a definate down-side to this plan. So a campaign began to get rid of the dissenters.
I guess the lesson we can take from this today is that we should know the personal views not only of the titular rulers of our adversaries, but also the top people around them.
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Isn’t it ironic that liberals and democrats don’t know that Nazi is slang for National Socialists?
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posted on
02/05/2008 9:22:00 AM PST
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
To: fredhead; GOP_Party_Animal; Vaquero; r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; ...
If there is enough interest I will build a “Real time + 70 years” ping list. Volume wise, it will probably be about a post a week. At least for a while. If you would like to be on this ping list let me know. Or not. I spend time reeling through microfiche at the local university library and copy articles that catch my fancy. Most of these are WWII or pre-WWII related. Others might just show something about popular culture or technology from 70 years ago. Why 70 years, you ask? Because I didn’t think about doing this 10 years ago when it would have been a nice round number. Before that I’m not sure Al Gore had invented the internet yet.
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posted on
02/05/2008 9:33:16 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("I’m not liking the way the 21st Century is shaping up logic wise." - AU72)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
In other late news, February, (circa 44 BC): In Rome, Julius Caesar was named dictator perpetuus.
To: Bringbackthedraft
Julius Caesar got stabbed in the back on the Ides of March.
Americans get stabbed in the back on the Ides of April.
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posted on
02/05/2008 9:40:34 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Shortly afterward he required all to swear an oath to him personally instead of the one sworn to Germany. The causes for the rise of a maniac like Hitler were varied but one of the chief causes was the way in which World War I was concluded. Ludendorff and Scheer, were eager to carry on the fight as the last campaign on Verdun was successful in its early stages before bogging down...Hindenburg, IMO, was tired of war as was the rest of Germany. However, a better peace accord was certainly warranted than the one the nation got--basically shafted by Lloyd George and Clemenseau--and the nation's army was far from beaten and could have fought the allies to a standstill then gotten a much better settlement.
The lesson of Germany is that it could be mirrored here if the Democrats get their way and pull out of Iraq, leaving it to Al Qaeda (the new Third Richt).
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posted on
02/05/2008 9:43:45 AM PST
by
meandog
(Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 329 and counting! <b>Vote Mitt=Get Billary!))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Ah, Hitler. Now there was a fellow whose hands weren't tied by the silly restrictions of "PC" warfare....
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posted on
02/05/2008 9:57:14 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: meandog
The causes for the rise of a maniac like Hitler were varied but one of the chief causes was the way in which World War I was concluded.That could have been overcome if France had the national will to oust Hitler when he remilitarized (barely) the Rhineland in 1936 or if France and Great Britain had taken action instead of exhausting all the diplomatic avenues when Hitler moved on Austria and Czechoslovakia. France could even have moved into western Germany after the invasion of Poland and beaten Hitler from the rear. What would have happened then? Who knows. Maybe the festering would have continued in Germany until Stalin made a preemptive strike to the west, launching a second world war.
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:16:47 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("I’m not liking the way the 21st Century is shaping up logic wise." - AU72)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:33:50 AM PST
by
Ciexyz
To: meandog
The causes for the rise of a maniac like Hitler were varied but one of the chief causes was the way in which World War I was concluded.That could have been overcome if France had the national will to oust Hitler when he remilitarized (barely) the Rhineland in 1936 or if France and Great Britain had taken action instead of exhausting all the diplomatic avenues when Hitler moved on Austria and Czechoslovakia. France could even have moved into western Germany after the invasion of Poland and beaten Hitler from the rear. What would have happened then? Who knows. Maybe the festering would have continued in Germany until Stalin made a preemptive strike to the west, launching a second world war.
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:34:06 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("I’m not liking the way the 21st Century is shaping up logic wise." - AU72)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Double post not my fault! This site is slooooow today.
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:35:17 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("I’m not liking the way the 21st Century is shaping up logic wise." - AU72)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
please ping me (I think I am already on the list)
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:40:20 AM PST
by
fredhead
(Four cylinders, air cooled, horizontally opposed...the REAL VW.)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:40:26 AM PST
by
investigateworld
( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
To: fredhead
You are a charter member.
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:41:48 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("I’m not liking the way the 21st Century is shaping up logic wise." - AU72)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this. It’s always interesting to see contemporary accounts of developments like this. Anyone interested in this particular period should read Wm.L. Shirer’s “Berlin Diary”. Sort of a chilling chronicle of the descent into disaster. Goes along very well with Speer’s “Inside the Third Reich”.
Now can someone explain to a casual observer what a “ping list” is? I never quite got that...
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:46:27 AM PST
by
Mr. Dough
(I'm all in favor of multiculturalism, especially if it involves funny accents!)
To: Mr. Dough
Anyone interested in this particular period should read Wm.L. Shirers Berlin Diary. I haven't read that yet. I got the idea for this project when I read Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." It is an imposing looking volume, but turns out to be a real page-turner. The appeasement of Hitler in 1936-39 can still get one's blood boiling. And it seems all too similiar to the rhetoric of the anti-war left today.
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:56:01 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("I’m not liking the way the 21st Century is shaping up logic wise." - AU72)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Can somebody post the picture of Hillary with the Hitler moustache, a.k.a. “Hitlery”?
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:56:21 AM PST
by
Contra
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Please add my name to the ping list.
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:59:15 AM PST
by
kanawa
(Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
To: Mr. Dough
A ping list is like a subscription. Whenever I post one of these real time + 70 years articles I will paste the saved list of interested parties into the address box.
I promise not to sell the ping list to any third party organization, commercial or otherwise.
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posted on
02/05/2008 10:59:59 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("I’m not liking the way the 21st Century is shaping up logic wise." - AU72)
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