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Appalachazona
The Goldwater Institute ^ | February 5, 2008 | Matthew Ladner

Posted on 02/05/2008 12:04:30 PM PST by GoldwaterInstitute

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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Your source maintains that the differing national IQs are genetic. Do you believe in a master race?

The wiki article points to all the criticisms and the link to the Pioneer Fund.

Beyond all that, in study after after study in genetics, genes always take a back seat to environment. Likewise, there is always more variablity within a gene pool than there is between gene pools.

Are you Steve Sailor?

21 posted on 02/05/2008 5:59:23 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I love that area - if there had been jobs around Marion, VA, when we got married, that's where we'd be living now. But we're settled in Missouri, not near as pretty as VA, but we like it.

Carolyn

22 posted on 02/06/2008 4:34:55 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: dljordan
What a beautiful place TN is! I just love that area.

Carolyn

23 posted on 02/06/2008 4:36:30 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
What a beautiful place! If there had been work in Marion, VA when we got married, we'd be there today. But there wasn't and we're settled now in Missouri. We like it, but it's not nearly as beautiful as the Shenandoah.

Carolyn

24 posted on 02/06/2008 4:41:11 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: dljordan

Remember how people in Arkansas feel if you ever get the urge to run us down. There is a very good thing about this though. A lot of undesirables will think they are too good to rub elbows with hillbillies and will shun us. ;0)


25 posted on 02/06/2008 5:47:52 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
in case people don't know exactly what is covered here.....

Main Entry: Ap·pa·la·chia
Pronunciation: \ˌa-pə-ˈlā-chə, -ˈla-chə, -ˈlā-shə\ Function: geographical name
region E United States comprising Appalachian Mountains from S central New York to central Alabama

26 posted on 02/06/2008 6:00:21 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Albright ZaPeezda)
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To: jmyrlefuller
They’re all running south.

Well, many Appalachian folks are moving to all points of the compass. I ended up in Pennsylvania, and another guy I ran into from back home (Buchanan County) works in a high-end furniture store in Waynesboro. Also, I actually ran into another girl from Gate City, Virginia who works at Cheers in Boston.

27 posted on 02/06/2008 7:00:30 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Pronunciation: \ˌa-pə-ˈlā-chə, -ˈla-chə, -ˈlā-shə

We actually say Appa-LA-chia with a short "a" rather than a long "a".

28 posted on 02/06/2008 7:02:23 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: GoldwaterInstitute
Florida has a large migrant worker population from ranching and agriculture. I wonder if AZ is the same way.

Regardless, Jeb Bush and Florida public schools are nothing to brag about. The HS graduation rate is pretty low.

29 posted on 02/06/2008 7:08:51 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Ben Ficklin
Do you believe in a master race?

No, I try my very hardest not to "believe" in anything. All I do is look at the numbers.

genes always take a back seat to environment

Sadly, that's false.

All other things being equal, nature is vastly superior to nurture; environment has only very marginal, very transient effects on intellectual prowess [i.e. with extreme pedagogical submersion, you can raise test scores by a few points for a very brief time, but once the kids leave the program, and move on with their lives, you get an "If you don't use it, you lose it" deterioration of what had appeared to be increased intellectual acumen].

Likewise, there is always more variablity within a gene pool than there is between gene pools.

That's a meaningless statement.

Are you Steve Sailor?

No, although I do correspond with him.

PS: Listen, I can't talk much more openly about this question for fear of provoking the wrath of the Admin Moderator, and it's imperative that this account not be banned.

But if you care about the future of your family, then start making plans for how you are going to survive in the worst possible social chaos: Circa 2020, our nation will simply fall apart at the seams from unsustainable demographic imperatives.

As a starter exercise, spend an afternoon reading and contemplating all of the stories at The Fabulous Ruins of Detroit, and try to come up with strategies for surviving in a dystopic future like that.

Because that future is coming for you [and yours], and if you don't prepare for it [now], then it's going to swallow you up into the vortex, and you [and yours] will be vanquished from the annals of human history.

30 posted on 02/06/2008 9:08:00 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: CDHart

Oh, the Shenandoah valley is absolutely gorgeous!


31 posted on 02/06/2008 6:31:36 PM PST by Slip18
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To: x

Excuse me?


32 posted on 02/06/2008 6:35:02 PM PST by Slip18
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I understand your worries about getting banned. They usually do that to people who’s views are based on ignorance, hate, and racism.


33 posted on 02/07/2008 2:50:14 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Correct. Thank you for clarifying that. IIRC, it was during the “War on Poverty” that the pronunciation became corrupted.


34 posted on 02/07/2008 2:58:45 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Slip18
Yes, it is. Prettiest place on earth, IMO.

Carolyn

35 posted on 02/07/2008 4:39:37 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
To pretend that the Caucasian/Castilian Cuban "Hispanics" in Florida bear any resemblance whatsover to the Aboriginal/Mestizo "Hispanics" in Arizona is worse than ludicrous: It is intentional statistical fraud.

You haven't seen who's picking the oranges, have you? Yes, there is a large concentration of Cubans in the south of the state, but Florida has its share of Mexicans and Central Americans.

You do have a valid point, though, that to be a really meaningful comparison, a study ought to weigh how many years -- or generations -- the kids' families have been in the US.

36 posted on 02/07/2008 5:02:52 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Ben Ficklin
I understand your worries about getting banned. They usually do that to people who’s views are based on ignorance, hate, and racism.

For the record, I am the one in this conversation who has been arguing AGAINST ignorance, hate, and racism, and who has been on the receiving end of ignorance, hate, and racism from YOU.

37 posted on 02/07/2008 7:00:25 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: ReignOfError
You do have a valid point, though, that to be a really meaningful comparison, a study ought to weigh how many years -- or generations -- the kids' families have been in the US.

No, to make it a "meaningful comparison", you have to compare like groups of people.

If you compare unlike groups of people, you are going to get unlike results [which is pretty much tautologous].

38 posted on 02/07/2008 7:02:42 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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