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SWAT Officer killed in LA Shootout (Barricaded Suspect)
Associated Press via MSNBC ^ | 2/7/2008 | AP

Posted on 02/07/2008 5:54:51 AM PST by xsrdx

LOS ANGELES - One veteran SWAT officer was killed and another wounded during a shootout with a man who called police and said he had killed three members of his family, police said Thursday.

The standoff with the barricaded gunman continued at 5 a.m., first-assistant police Chief Jim McDonnell said at a news conference.

The standoff started at 9 p.m. Wednesday when a man called police and said he had killed three members of his family, McDonnell said. When the SWAT officers arrived, there was a shootout and the pair were shot.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; lapd; leo; officerdown; swat
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This is breaking on MSNBC, sad day for LAPD.
1 posted on 02/07/2008 5:54:54 AM PST by xsrdx
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To: xsrdx; jonascord
God bless him and keep him.

I'm waiting for the first paranoid sissy FReeper to make a "JBT" comment.

Like that fake "marine" jonascord.

2 posted on 02/07/2008 6:00:07 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

I wonder how this could have happened SWAT is always so careful and professional....he must have surprised them when they first rolled up.


3 posted on 02/07/2008 6:02:40 AM PST by Dog
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At least they didn’t taze the shooter. He might have been hurt.


4 posted on 02/07/2008 6:05:00 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Dog

LA SWAT does indeed seem to be very well-trained, but the killer may have either had some training too - or was perhaps just got off a lucky shot.


5 posted on 02/07/2008 6:11:57 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
SWAT has ROE (Rules of Engagement) - The perp does not. It does make a big difference.
6 posted on 02/07/2008 6:22:16 AM PST by mosaicwolf
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SWAT arrived, set up a 4 block perimeter. both officers had 20 yr swat experience At some point the officers decided to enter and both were shot. That swat team has been removed from the scene, a new swat team on-site. At 5:50 tear gas was put in the house. Winds blew the gas back on officers. Asst Chief is now coming to a head.
7 posted on 02/07/2008 6:35:03 AM PST by edcoil
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To: mosaicwolf
SWAT arrived, set up a 4 block perimeter. both officers had 20 yr swat experience At some point the officers decided to enter and both were shot. That swat team has been removed from the scene, a new swat team on-site. At 5:50 tear gas was put in the house. Winds blew the gas back on officers. Asst Chief says it is now coming to a head. Expect an ending soon. Randy Simmons, 51 lost his life.
8 posted on 02/07/2008 6:35:54 AM PST by edcoil
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To: edcoil
Wonder if the perp is an illegal alien?

Carolyn

9 posted on 02/07/2008 6:39:40 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: edcoil
At some point the officers decided to enter and both were shot.

Always a tough call, they knew the risks though. Wonder what the odds are of the bad guy leaving upright.

10 posted on 02/07/2008 6:42:31 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx

During the tear gassing, a women hiding in the closet was able to escape the house and is now talking with officers on the scene.


11 posted on 02/07/2008 6:43:57 AM PST by edcoil
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To: edcoil
a women hiding in the closet.

Wow, that makes a difference. Did SWAT know there were hostages? Assume so.

That explains decision to enter dynamic.

12 posted on 02/07/2008 6:46:44 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: CDHart

When I awoke at 5 am this morning to Breaking news and still kinda of groggy. I though oh man its got to be Brittany Spears

But on a serious note Rip to that Police officer and prayers to all involved


13 posted on 02/07/2008 6:56:47 AM PST by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: al baby; All

The house is fully on fire and burning down.


14 posted on 02/07/2008 7:29:28 AM PST by edcoil
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Yep, that’s the “pyrotechnic teargas option.”


15 posted on 02/07/2008 7:31:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: xsrdx

It’s all over...House fully involved. All helicopter traffic was told to back off....Only ground video available.


16 posted on 02/07/2008 7:32:05 AM PST by dragnet2
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Body’s on the front lawn, dead swat officer, another in surgery... and hearing others have been shot....House fully involved, no chopper video..Told to get back...

This guy called 911 and told the cops...Come get me.


17 posted on 02/07/2008 7:35:28 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Dog
I wonder how this could have happened SWAT is always so careful and professional.

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Obviously the suspect was prepared...He told them on the 911 call to "come get me coppers".

18 posted on 02/07/2008 7:39:24 AM PST by dragnet2
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God Bless those poor men. I’m not surprised if the perp dies when he kills a cop. Usually if you fight a cop...all his friends come around with their guns and it is usually a bad outcome.

I’ll admit that I’ve criticized SWAT screw ups, but if these guys went in to save a hostage...they’re a lot braver than I am.

I’m not saying that killing everybody in a house when you have to breach a door is easy, but if ROE make you hesitate for a split second when sometimes that’s all you’ve got.

Any ID on the perp?


19 posted on 02/07/2008 7:40:38 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: xsrdx
Wow, that makes a difference. Did SWAT know there were hostages?

I understand he told the 911 operator that he killed his entire family....There is still a body on the front lawn thats been there for hours...

20 posted on 02/07/2008 7:40:41 AM PST by dragnet2
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