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U.S. military officials wary of China's expanding fleet of submarines
Int'l Herald Tribune (NYT) ^ | February 7, 2008 | David Lague

Posted on 02/07/2008 9:30:00 PM PST by fishhound

BEIJING: For a procession of senior U.S. military commanders who have visited China in recent years, the complaint has become almost routine.

As part of a sustained military buildup, they say, China is investing heavily in so-called area-denial weapons without explaining why it needs them.

The term area-denial weapons refers to a combination of armaments, technology and tactics that could be used to dominate a specific area or keep opposing forces at bay in a conflict. And one of the most formidable examples U.S. commanders identify is the Chinese Navy's rapidly expanding fleet of nuclear and conventional submarines.

"I would say that the U.S. feels a strong threat from Chinese submarines," said Andrei Chang, an expert on Chinese and Taiwan military forces and editor in chief of the magazine Kanwa Defence Review.

"China now has more submarines than Russia, and the speed they are building them is amazing," Chang said.

U.S. and other Western military analysts estimate that China now has more than 30 advanced and increasingly stealthy submarines, along with dozens of older, obsolete types. "China is capable of serial production of modern diesel-electric submarines and is moving forward with new nuclear submarines," the Pentagon said last year in its annual report on the Chinese military.

By the end of the decade, experts say, China will have more submarines than the United States, although it will still lag in overall capability.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinesesubmarines; defense; navair; submarine; submarines
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1 posted on 02/07/2008 9:30:05 PM PST by fishhound
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To: JACKRUSSELL

ping


2 posted on 02/07/2008 9:30:32 PM PST by fishhound
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To: magslinger

Ping


3 posted on 02/07/2008 9:31:19 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: fishhound

I wouldn’t worry about China catching up in weapons capability. The next Clinton has already taken money from Chinese contributors. She will transfer technology to the Chinese military, just as the previous Clinton did.


4 posted on 02/07/2008 9:31:57 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: fishhound

We keep on buying crap from walmart. /s


5 posted on 02/07/2008 9:35:09 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: fishhound

It’s about all your base...and are belong to. (string of pearls)


6 posted on 02/07/2008 9:35:57 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: fishhound; Jeff Head; pissant; Cannoneer No. 4; freema
Mean while at home....“For the second time this week, a federal court found today that a Navy anti-submarine training program threatened to subject whales and other sea creatures to harmful blasts of sonar and ordered protective measures in several sensitive zones, including one near Monterey Bay.”

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7 posted on 02/07/2008 9:39:54 PM PST by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: Chgogal

the chinese probably test and then... eat.


8 posted on 02/07/2008 9:41:39 PM PST by fishhound
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To: fishhound

Oh nothing to worry about...I’m sure there is a perfectly valid reason for building so many subs....um undersea exploration perhaps? Uh huh....

nothing to see here...continue consuming!

;)


9 posted on 02/07/2008 9:41:57 PM PST by BootsOfEscaping
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To: mylife

You know, it’s funny, but Wal-Mart is a store I never go into. But every store has overseas products in it. You can’t totally avoid it.


10 posted on 02/07/2008 9:42:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man

Clinton would probably try to lift the forced “made in china” labels at the retail end.

It is fn hard to avoid Chinese products.


11 posted on 02/07/2008 9:46:24 PM PST by fishhound
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To: fishhound

They should have started worrying 4 years ago.. The Aussies too. The Aussies even more than us, should be expanding their Sub fleet and their ASW Tech.


12 posted on 02/07/2008 9:49:30 PM PST by DGHoodini (Happy Leap Month!)
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To: DGHoodini

Isn’t it the Aussies licensing high speed catamarrans that they convert to military platforms.?


13 posted on 02/07/2008 9:51:10 PM PST by fishhound
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To: fishhound
Storm clouds a gathering.

Meanwhile we permit, no, in fact subsidize the hollowing out of our manufacturing base along with the undermining of our currency and financial base. Not looking good from this end but then I’m probably Myopic, not having the far sightedness of many of our Globalist leaders.

14 posted on 02/07/2008 9:56:00 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats

“Meanwhile we permit, no, in fact subsidize the hollowing out of our manufacturing base along with the undermining of our currency and financial base.”

Deliberate and sick race to the bottom. Ask any manufacturer.


15 posted on 02/07/2008 10:01:04 PM PST by fishhound
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To: Chgogal

Worthless POS in robes. Feed them to the whales.


16 posted on 02/07/2008 10:01:09 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: purpleraine
"She will transfer technology "

Let's see. What did The Toon give his ChiCom comrades? NRC, Sandia, Los Alamos archives. Final stage synchronous orbit. Nuke miniaturization. MIRV capability. Neutron bomb.

What could Mrs. Toon give them? Aha! SLBMs. ABM, Patriot avoidance. Stealth detection. . . .

yitbos

17 posted on 02/07/2008 10:02:49 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. - Ayn Rand")
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To: pissant
Whales don’t eat POSs like that, unfortunately. ; {
18 posted on 02/07/2008 10:03:34 PM PST by Chgogal (When you vote Democrat, you vote Al Qaeda! Ari Emanuel, Rahm's brother was agent to Moore's F9/11.)
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To: fishhound

How long is it that the Chinese have been building these submarines?


19 posted on 02/07/2008 10:07:40 PM PST by Rudder
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To: fishhound

Well duh


20 posted on 02/07/2008 10:17:46 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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