2 studies conclude that biofuels are not so green after all

Int'l Herald Tribune (NYT) ^ | February 7, 2008 | Elisabeth Rosenthal

[fishhound]

Almost all biofuels used today cause more greenhouse gas emissions than conventional fuels if the pollution caused by producing these "green" fuels is taken into account, two studies published Thursday have concluded.

The benefits of biofuels have come under increasing attack in recent months as scientists have evaluated the global environmental cost of their production. The new studies, published by the journal Science, are likely to add to the controversy.

These studies for the first time take a comprehensive look at the emissions effects of the huge amount of land that is being converted to cropland globally to support biofuels development. The destruction of natural ecosystems - whether rain forest in the tropics or grasslands in South America - increases the release of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere because the ecosystems are the planet's natural sponge for carbon emissions.

[fishhound]

"International environmental groups and the United Nations responded cautiously to the studies, saying that biofuels could still be useful. "We don't want a total public backlash that would prevent us from getting the potential benefits," said Nicholas Nuttall, spokesman for the UN Environment Program."

"We don't want a total public backlash that would prevent us from getting the potential benefits,"

translation somehow the UN figured a way to get $$$

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Please don’t confuse the idiot greenies with actual facts.

[GeronL]

I think we already knew it was a big lie anyway. no surprise here

[fishhound]

please elaborate.

[Cold Heart]

EFB
Ethanol Fraud Bump

[fishhound]

huge lie

[GeronL]

maybe the biggest lie ever, EVER,,, =o)

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

From the article: Almost all biofuels used today cause more greenhouse gas emissions than conventional fuels if the pollution caused by producing these “green” fuels is taken into account, two studies published Thursday have concluded.

[fishhound]

That, I get, but I thought you meant something else by using the terms greenies vs facts.

I think that the bigger the lie the deeper the public bite down.

Thanks.

[pillut48]

p3wned!

[Goldwater and Gingrich]

I really think that they push this kind of BS just to see if we are so stupid that we let them. It is like a test to see what kind of silly program can get everyone to do.

Well It looks like most people are that stupid.

The will go after Beef next. You can bet on it.

[ChiMark]

Anyone with horse sense know that “bio fuels”
means B.S.

But our esteemed populace thrust McCain, Hillary and/or Obama
as front runners for the presidency. All of whom are
sickeningly “green”

I believe the population of ratonal free thinkers
has bcome miniscule.

[Mark was here]

To accept as fact bio-fuels cause more global warming, you have to buy into the greenhouse gas theory.

Sure they can use corn to make whiskey and call it a bio-fuel, but it is not economical and must be subsidized by the government confiscating property from others.

[steelyourfaith]

Beam me to Planet Gore !

The Best Global Warming Videos on the Internet

• Part I ... Documentaries
• Part II ............ Lectures
• Part III ............ Debates

[reformedliberal]

The way they are attacking beef is to inflate the amount of water needed to produce each pound and then to promote alarm over this. These people have never seen a cow pee.