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Libertarian Party sends condolences to the Republican National Committee
Libertarian Party - online ^ | Feb 6, 2008 | The LP

Posted on 02/08/2008 3:56:23 AM PST by LowCountryJoe

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To: LowCountryJoe
We do not seem to embrace liberty any longer

Embrace liberty? Hell, we're running away from liberty and freedom and towards full blown Socialism at a break-neck pace at every available opportunity.....and have been for some time now.....

I'm not sure when it happened, most likely it began in the late 1960's, but the average Joe in this country does not love liberty at all. The average Joe, and ALL DemocRats couldn't define liberty if they tried. That is and has been clearly evident in every election cycle since at least 1988. They vote for who is going to "give" them the most or the ones that claim to offer the most "security".

Personal responsibility, self reliance and the love of liberty and freedom are all but dead in the USA.

21 posted on 02/08/2008 5:09:37 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Darkwolf377
If only they could get a single Libertarian elected to any office, they might be in the position to gloat.

If the party had the support of true conservatives, patriots, Constitutionalists and those who remember the principles Reagan exuded, they'd get more than a few people elected.

22 posted on 02/08/2008 5:09:45 AM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Didn’t the Liberteens have a candidate running for president? Oh, what’s his name? It’s on the tip of my tongue...


23 posted on 02/08/2008 5:11:08 AM PST by Libloather (February is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Darkwolf377

If McCain does not pick a VP candidate who I can accept, I probably WILL vote Libertarian for the first time in my life. The reason the Libertarians have had such difficulty getting candidates elected is that the GOP stood in many respects for the same things they did. With McCain, however, I think that is no longer true.


24 posted on 02/08/2008 5:14:18 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Darkwolf377
If only they could get a single Libertarian elected to any office, they might be in the position to gloat.

Sending a wreath and a note of condolence about the death of small government principles in the Republican party is not "gloating."

25 posted on 02/08/2008 5:22:58 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: LowCountryJoe
The Libertarians nailed the GOP. It is simultaneously hilarious and sad.
26 posted on 02/08/2008 5:23:58 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: Thermalseeker
most likely it began in the late 1960's

Thank LBJ, another Texan, for the Great Society programs and the War on Poverty efforts. Can someone finally declare victory in that one?

27 posted on 02/08/2008 5:23:58 AM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te calles?")
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To: LowCountryJoe

How many senators hail from the Libertarian Party?


28 posted on 02/08/2008 5:26:02 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: LowCountryJoe

I detect schadenfreude by the LP, but it’s well deserved. The GOP is, in fact, a moderate wing of the DNC. We all know what happens to moderates.


29 posted on 02/08/2008 5:27:52 AM PST by TADSLOS (Estoy Juan McCain y apruebo este mensaje!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
I think the Constitution Party probably addresses better individual liberty without loss of soverignty

I used to support the Constitution party. However, they want to pull out of Iraq as well. There is also a strong push in the CP to recruit Ron Paul.

I'm not going to get everything I want, but their position on Iraq is a deal breaker.

30 posted on 02/08/2008 5:28:25 AM PST by kidd
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To: LowCountryJoe
"we, the staff of the Libertarian National Committee, send our condolences to you upon the death of small-government principles within the GOP."

They are right on that, but they have a surrender monkey as their leader so they're no better off. Nice try though.

31 posted on 02/08/2008 5:32:08 AM PST by McGruff (I will not go quietly into the night. I will not surrender without a fight.)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Scarborough on PMSNBC this morning said GOPers have told him they expect a ‘disaster of epic proportions’ this fall. I hate to say it, but the only thing that can save us is some kind of crisis between now and then. Maybe if we have war with Iran, that will turn the wishy washy voters back to national security matters. Or maybe President Bush could suspend the election. Maybe the military needs to step in, I can’t believe they would accept Hilary or Osama Obama as commainder in chief.


32 posted on 02/08/2008 5:32:30 AM PST by balch3
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To: ninonitti
Bernie Saunders did it for the Socialists in VT. Can't the Libertarians pull it off somewhere in the West?

The problem is that with the vast majority of people, it's much easier to "sell them" on the idea of giving them other peoples' stuff, saying that the government is like their parents (remember pony-tail boy at that Bill Clinton campaign stop?) than it is to tell them, "I'm going to give you the opportunity to rise to your highest potential." Most people simply don't want to "give it their best shot" in life. They would much rather be secure than taking a chance that they might fail.

Mark

33 posted on 02/08/2008 5:33:04 AM PST by MarkL
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To: sergeantdave
Back in 2002 when so-called libertarians started running screeds from various Marxists, including that bozo America-hating linguist from Yale (can’t think of his name), I knew the libertarian party was cooked.

I think that you might be thinking of Noam Chomsky, from MIT. But I don't think that he's ever declared himself a libertarian, either big or small 'L.' Of course, I could be wrong here. One thing is for certain, he certainly is an "America Hater," but he's grown quite rich working as a contractor for the military and intelligence agencies that he hates so much.

Mark

34 posted on 02/08/2008 5:38:11 AM PST by MarkL
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To: Darkwolf377

“If only they could get a single Libertarian elected to any office, they might be in the position to gloat.”

I think the city government of Leadville, Colorado was or is mostly Libertarian.


35 posted on 02/08/2008 5:39:20 AM PST by dljordan
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To: untrained skeptic
The problem with the Libertarian Party isn't libertarians in general. It's the conspiracy theory nuts within the party that can't base their views on reality, but instead buy into stories that are a bunch of what-ifs strung together without real evidence.

And another problem is with LINOs (Libertarians in name only) like Bill Mahr. These are people who are actually big government leftists, who just happen to latch on to the anti-WOD stance of the LP.

I do wish that the LP would "get over" making the WOD their #1 issue. I'm against the WOD, simply because I hate what it's done to the Bill of Rights. But there are bigger fish to fry right now. And I have LOTS of trouble supporting the LP's policies on open borders and the WOT, which is what I consider to be the #1 issues today. I would say that I support about 80% of the LP's platform, and I consider myself something of a "small 'l' libertarian," but those 2 issues keep me voting 'R.' Or it did until now.

Mark

36 posted on 02/08/2008 5:44:42 AM PST by MarkL
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To: Wolfie
I also agree with their assessment that the Republicans and Democrats merely represent slightly different flavors of Big Government philosophy

The Republicans have been in death spiral mode for decades.

It is about time someone noticed.

Just one thread from the near recent future-link below...

Best regards, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/790212/posts?page=91#91

37 posted on 02/08/2008 5:45:46 AM PST by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: dljordan
I think the city government of Leadville, Colorado was or is mostly Libertarian.

WOW!!!!! /sarc

38 posted on 02/08/2008 6:00:11 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: JoanVarga
Can someone finally declare victory in that one?

There is and will be no victory in the so-called "war on poverty" because winning is not the objective, so no victory is sought. The so-called "war on poverty" is a vote generating scheme designed to last eternally.

Boortz nails it when he says poverty is a mental disease. Rich folks, by and large, get and stay rich by repeating the behavior that makes them rich. Poor folks, by and large, get and stay poor by repeating the behavior that makes them poor. There is, and always will be, about 10% of any population that simply refuses to do for themselves. Thus, our welfare system has been extended from those who can't to those who won't. This was and is a key source of votes for the Dims and Johnson and his cronies knew that when they made up this phony "war on poverty" nonsense.

Forget victory in the "war on poverty". I'd settle for an exit strategy......with a set time table for an orderly retreat......

39 posted on 02/08/2008 6:07:26 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Thermalseeker

Prezactly.


40 posted on 02/08/2008 6:09:40 AM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te calles?")
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