Charen: McCain Disdain

National Review Online ^ | 2-8-08 | Mona Charen

[Dems_R_Losers]

“He went after the 527s with McCain-Feingold because he thought they would hurt him in a future presidential run. “

Everything else you said I have heard or thought before, but the above was a light bulb going on for me. Could you expand your thoughts on that?

I believe McCain has been running for president for at least ten years and has never stopped. Everything he has done has to be viewed in that context. He knows he is the favorite of the media and wanted to make the media stronger in future campaigns by making paid political speech more difficult. This has the bonus effect of ingratiating him even more with the media and guaranteeing him more free media coverage, which he has used to great effect.

The guy is not stupid.

[Just mythoughts]

You know, we have nine(9) months between now and the election. The Dem. nominee may not be determined for months. Mc cain’s VP nominee hasn’t been selected. I think people who are making these Shermanesk statements at this time are full of hot air and are expressing emotion of the moment. A more sobering thought might influence them in November given the stark difference in the choices.

So basically you are saying 'conservatives' put some ice on it come November you'll see things my way... How very Bill Clinton of you... 'you know'.

[Fishrrman]

“My Country is at stake. Can I trust one man that I despise who represents my Party or sit on my hands on 11/8 and allow socialism overtake our society”

Methinks you have answered your own question!

- John

[econjack]

We also need to take off the politically correct gloves and start playing hardball with the facts. How can people sit there and hear Hillary tell you that you (productive) people are going to have to sacrifice more so those less fortunate (unproductive) can benefit. Screw that! If you want more from life, get it yourself. I'm tired of paying for your better life and my expense and I'd like my party to have the guts to say so out loud. Call Hillary out: She wants to raise your taxes, folks, so why are you supporting her? No wonder she appeals to the unproductive members of society. But no...the GOP wants to take the high road and not point that out. The GOP no longer has a spine for a fight.

How 'bout this for a drastic idea: Instead of seeing the economic pie as fix and the only way to make one group better is to take something away from another group, why not create a business environment (cut taxes on business and consumers, less regulation, etc.) where the size of the pie gets bigger. A rising tide lifts all boats.

Hillary, by her own words, takes the Marxist view of income redistribution, as evidenced by her own words. Alas, McCain seems to have the same view of the world. How sad for the rest of us productive members of this society.

[Dems_R_Losers]

Amen. I think John McCain is dangerous and unbalanced and unprincipled. I cannot in good conscience vote for him, and nobody will convince me to. My opinion about him was formed a long time ago and nothing he has done since has improved it, only made it worse. America survived four years of Jimmy Carter with 5,000 Soviet nukes pointed at us, 12% inflation, gas lines, and hostages taken in Iran. We will survive four years of Clinton or Obama. I am not succumbing to the Republican politics of fear.

[cvq3842]

I agree with you - I was always the one to say that people shouldn’t throw away their vote on a third party, write-in, etc.

But I’ve reached my limit. How far should I stretch, or ignore, my principles? The left is just itching for us all - the talk radio crowd, the FReepers, etc. to back McCain - they’ll never let us hear the end of it! Win or lose in 2008, any time Conservatives make an argument about immigration, civil rights for terrorists, global warming, judges, taxes, etc., the response will be “well, it must not be that important to you, since your own candidate, whom you nominated and supported, disagrees with you.”

I’m sticking to my principles - in the end it’s all we have.

Sadly, I believe that McCain has only a slightly better chance of being elected president in 2008 than you or I do in any event.

[cvq3842]

The government should not regulate the political content of broadcasts. Period.

[oblomov]

I prefer to vote 3rd party. Libertarian or Constitution. Let the GOP work to get my vote back.

[ecomcon]

I abhor the thought of voting for Hillary O'bama. But if I vote for McCain, aren't I just encouraging the party to offer up more just like him?

GHWB, Dole, Bush, McCain. It gets worse each cycle. None of these guys are philosophical conservatives.

WE ALL KNOW GOOD AND WELL THAT MCCAIN WILL THROW US UNDER THE BUS.

When do we start advancing instead of retreating? We've been on the defensive since RR. These "Republicans" are worthless. We haven't accomplished a thing. I want to win, not play prevent defense.

[Travis McGee]

Don't listen to McCain's promises of the moment: observe his actions.

This is the man John McCain chose to be his "Hispanic Outreach Director." Hernandez is a verified traitor. Born in Dallas he decided as an adult to become a dual-national Mexican citizen. His last job was serving as Mexican President Vicente Fox's "American Reconquista Director."

Hernandez believes all Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the USA should become dual citizens and consider themselves Mexicans first, "to the 8th generation."

The "New American Pioneers" proclaimed in his book are the illegal alien invaders he urges to become settlers in the USA.

And this is the man McCain chose for his "Hispanic Outreach Director." In the past week he was asked about this choice, and he said he chose Hernandez because he agrees with his positions.

Yet out of the other side of his mouth he says "He has heard us" and he will "Secure the border first."

Juan Shamnesty McCain is precisely a treacherous liar.

[cvq3842]

I will vote for president but not for McCain or, obviously, any Democrat.

I dunno. Maybe the concepts of additction are applicable here. Republicans are addicted to the Beltway, establishment, “get along with the Democrats” drug. Voting for them makes us enablers. Maybe it’s time for an intervention - a crisis point for everyone. Maybe the addict listens, or maybe not. Maybe the family suffers greatly in the short term. But it brings the crisis to a head, and forces changes.

Again, I dunno. But if we all swallow McCain as nominee, who will the RINOs shove down our throats next time? I’d half expect Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol to be telling us in 2012 that the Republicans should nominate Hillary because she’s the only one who can bring in the moderates to defeat President Obama. Really, how much is too much?

As I said, I’m at my limit. I know others disagree, strongly.

[TCats]

Sad but true. The fact of Hillary is, for me, the ONLY factor motivating me to be involved in any way in this election. It is way past time Conservatives were presented with choices they could be FOR and not just choices and votes to PREVENT - Always the lesser of evils

[Poser]

McCain rhymes with Disdain. Nice catch Mona.

McCain was in Vietnam? Who would have guessed it?

[Mrs_Stokke]

Get over it. Mc Cain is the nominee barring some unexpected health problems.

Spoken like a true McCain believer.

[truthkeeper]

Excellent commentary by Ms. Charen. As usual, she hits the nail on the head.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Mentioning that Smith was in a wheel chair at the time is as manipulative as mentioning that Romney gave McCain a high hand shake at the debate, despite the pain it may have caused McCain to his crippled arms.

[ChildOfThe60s]

35% of Republicans voted for him. Says a lot more about these members of the party than McEgo^TM.

But it also brings up a very serious point about the Republican Party itself. McTemper^TM got his real momentum from the states with open primaries. I don't think he would have done this without them.

Thus the question: What kind of political party allows its opponents to choose its candidate? It's lunacy, plain and simple.

Conservatives that thought we had wrested control on the party for the NE libs back in the 90s were deluding themselves. We should have made it a war to oust them at that time. If they want to emulate Democrats we should have told them to hit the liberal highway. Big mistake not to do so.

[frogjerk]

On another issue, McCain voted for Breyer and Ginsburg?

[Iron Munro]

Terrific!

She has put into words the exact things about McCain that are so irritating to us on the personal level and so dangerous in a man claiming to represent millions of conservatives.

How can it be that the republican party has been reduced to having a second rate man like McCain become the standard bearer?

How far we have fallen! And we have yet to hit the bottom.

[oblomov]

>given the stark difference in the choices.

I’m trying to look at this situation clearly.

It’s hard for me to understand how the difference is “stark”. The media will try to portary it as stark, simply because the only thing the media knows how to do is portray every matter of public controversy as a Manichaean struggle, devoid of subtlety or contingencies. I agree that by November, more people will regard the choice as “stark” simply because the election will be framed as such.

Nonetheless, in both policy matters and temperament it is difficult to distinguish between McCain and McClinton. A centrist authoritarian and a leftist authoritarian, who appear to agree more than they disagree.

A McCain presidency would accelerate the slide into welfare-state corporatism with conservatives divided and disaffected; under a McClinton or Obama presidency, the Right would be united, and would fight every battle vigorously.