[rogue yam]

The issue is really more about what’s going to happen to the GOP and whether it will from now on be a Democrat Party II, or a conservative party. A McCain win would solidify the former for decades to come.

I just don't see why this is so. If McCain wins with Conservative support, and Conservatives stick to their principles and oppose Pres. McCain when necessary, then why will Conservatives be weakened during the 2012 and 2016 primaries as compared to there being a 'Rat President?

[billybudd]

Because if conservatives blindly support liberal traitor McCain, then we will get more of the same from the GOP, forever and ever. Conservatives can “oppose” all they want - it is irrelevant. The only thing that ultimately matters is the VOTES. It is only by losing an election that the RINO axis can lose power and conservatives can come to the fore.