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Harems pay off for Muslims (Toronto, Ontario Canada)
http://www.torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGTA/2008/02/08/4834588-sun.html ^ | 2/8/08

Posted on 02/09/2008 7:13:30 AM PST by Sammy67

Harems pay off for Muslims (Toronto, Ontario Canada)

Mumtaz Ali: "Very liberal-minded country".

Hundreds of GTA Muslim men in polygamous marriages -- some with a harem of wives -- are receiving welfare and social benefits for each of their spouses, thanks to the city and province, Muslim leaders say.

Mumtaz Ali, president of the Canadian Society of Muslims, said wives in polygamous marriages are recognized as spouses under the Ontario Family Law Act, providing they were legally married under Muslim laws abroad.

"Polygamy is a regular part of life for many Muslims," Ali said yesterday. "Ontario recognizes religious marriages for Muslims and others."

He estimates "several hundred" GTA husbands in polygamous marriages are receiving benefits. Under Islamic law, a Muslim man is permitted to have up to four spouses.

However, city and provincial officials said legally a welfare applicant can claim only one spouse. Other adults living in the same household can apply

(Excerpt) Read more at torontosun.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ali; brition; canada; islam; marriage; mosque; mumatz; mumtaz; muslims; ontario; polygamy; terrorism; toronto; welfare
No jobs in Canada?
1 posted on 02/09/2008 7:13:32 AM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are burrowing through the ground about now.


2 posted on 02/09/2008 7:17:53 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: Sammy67

This is so incredibly stupid that any sane individual should be at a loss for words. Just exactly where have we bred public officials with such immeasurable stupidity? The rules of unintended consequences have come to roost with folks with law degrees who somehow think that their poor, ill educated brains can actually overcome laws of nature with words. The war is coming, folks.


3 posted on 02/09/2008 7:20:38 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Sammy67

How long until Dearbornistan, Michigan does this?


4 posted on 02/09/2008 7:21:22 AM PST by GlennBeck08
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To: Da Coyote

I wonder if our government recognizes polygamous marriages established in Muslim countries. If not, then which wife do we consider to be the spouse? Or do we simply not recognize any of them?


5 posted on 02/09/2008 7:22:44 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Sammy67
Same thing proposed for UK.
Insanity.
6 posted on 02/09/2008 7:26:21 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: Sammy67

The U.S. practices discrimination against Mormons - plain and simple.

/sarc


7 posted on 02/09/2008 7:28:46 AM PST by BipolarBob (I've been stung by honey bees and bumblebees. I don't want no huckle bee.)
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To: Sammy67

“The families receiving benefits didn’t want their identities released because it can lead to questions by authorities on how they entered Canada and can mean an end to their benefits, Ali said.”

This is awful. Why should these poor people be made to feel such shame by such an unwelcoming culture? Why should they feel they need to live in the shadows?

/waiting for someone to not understand this as sarcasm


8 posted on 02/09/2008 7:31:01 AM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (Time to be a party maverick with my vote.)
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To: Sammy67

Dhimmis.


9 posted on 02/09/2008 7:32:27 AM PST by Greg F (A vote for Huckabee is now a pure vote for a contested convention. Think about it.)
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To: Sammy67
These people are behind the times.

In the US the women don't even have to be married.

Anonymous sperm donors sow the crop and we taxpayers pay the Harem brooders and pay to raise the crop.

10 posted on 02/09/2008 7:36:07 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Sammy67
“There are many people in the community who are taking advantage of this,” Ali said. “This is a law and there’s nothing wrong with it.”

I’ll bet there are, and many, many more to come. Crooks, all of them, stealing from the hard-working and honest.

11 posted on 02/09/2008 7:41:31 AM PST by Melinda
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To: GlennBeck08

It’s happening in Michigan and the US now; just that nobody in the media is allowed to talk about it.


12 posted on 02/09/2008 7:43:42 AM PST by kjo
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To: Sammy67
They study the local welfare laws before moving to choice areas where they can collect the most. Just a bunch of societal teat-suckers.
13 posted on 02/09/2008 8:03:33 AM PST by Melinda
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To: kjo
If you allow polygamous marriage than there is no logical argument to disallow homosexuaul marriage, and vice-versa. If state sanctioned marriage is not restricted to one man and one woman it can take any form. This means that the homosexual community is a built-in constituency for polygamy, and I thought the old expression, ‘politics makes strange bedfellows’ was figurative.
14 posted on 02/09/2008 8:08:46 AM PST by Old North State
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To: kjo
It’s happening in Michigan and the US now

Just found this article on an Instapundit link:

"3 Ex-wives Of Muslim Bakery Founder Allege Elaborate Welfare Scam"

Note that the headline is misleading:

"In all, roughly 100 women and many of the 46 children Bey is thought to have fathered were involved in the fraud scheme, according to the wives"

The article is quite long. Here are some excerpts:

"As the late Yusuf Bey built Your Black Muslim Bakery into an empire of wealth and influence, he also orchestrated a systematic welfare fraud scheme at his Oakland compound, three of his former wives have testified.

By the wives' sworn account, Bey directed many of the 100 women whom he considered his wives to make fraudulent applications for government aid programs intended to assist poor families, then diverted the benefits to himself.

Bey's alleged fraud scheme began in the 1970s and continued in some form until his death in 2003, according to the women, who gave depositions in a negligence lawsuit against Alameda County that was settled out of court earlier this year.

The revenue - thousands of dollars per month, perhaps more than $1 million over the course of the scheme, testimony in the case suggests - helped inflate the clout of Your Black Muslim Bakery, a business Bey proselytized as an icon of economic self-sufficiency.

The alleged fraud scheme was aided by two employees of the Alameda County Social Services Agency who were also Bey's sisters-in-law, the former wives testified. A welfare worker who was Bey's sister-in-law once tipped off the bakery that it might become the target of a fraud investigation, according to the testimony. As a result, the bakery's households jumped off the welfare rolls in an attempt to avoid scrutiny, a former wife testified.

The depositions and other evidence obtained by The Chronicle allege:

-- Bey's wives fraudulently obtained Aid to Families with Dependent Children payments and General Assistance monies that were then diverted into bakery coffers.

-- Bey family members fraudulently collected Section 8 vouchers - designed to help the poor with rent payments - despite owning houses in the Bay Area.

-- Bey's children fraudulently received medical coverage through Medi-Cal, a program for the state's neediest residents.

In all, roughly 100 women and many of the 46 children Bey is thought to have fathered were involved in the fraud scheme, according to the wives - a category, the depositions say, that included girls whom Bey allegedly raped and impregnated.

The fraud began with a simple fact, according to the testimony: Bey forced his wives to keep his name off his children's birth certificates. That allowed his wives to hide Bey's income and qualify for public assistance. Bey, meanwhile, drove a Mercedes, and his business had lucrative contracts to sell baked goods in dozens of places, including Whole Foods, Andronico's, the Oakland Coliseum and Oakland International Airport. "

Source:

San Francisco Chronicle
Matthai Kuruvila, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, November 18, 2007

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/11/18/MNR4TCBIN.DTL

15 posted on 02/09/2008 8:18:56 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Sammy67

The penalty for having two wives is, well, having two wives. No thanks.


16 posted on 02/09/2008 8:46:05 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: Sammy67

I thought I had been told that polygamy in Islam is very rare - for economic reasons, among others - and that it was primarily practiced among a small group of the very wealthy.


17 posted on 02/09/2008 9:48:14 AM PST by Steve_Seattle (|"Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Sammy67

We will need a fence on the Northern border before too long as well. Canadians are so PC they don’t believe in anything.


18 posted on 02/09/2008 9:49:54 AM PST by PGR88
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To: All

It’s already happening in France too.


19 posted on 02/09/2008 11:33:17 AM PST by paristwelve (.......the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them)
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To: dachef

i will become US draft-dodger, convert to islam, sneak north to canislamabada, wed four muslim/canislamabadian girls and become fifthy rich!


20 posted on 02/23/2008 5:58:46 AM PST by dachef
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