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Purpose-driven to the far left
Renew America ^ | February 8, 2008 | Donald Hank

Posted on 02/09/2008 3:12:40 PM PST by Graybeard58

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To: Graybeard58
How is it possible that seemingly devout Christians could support the party that stands like a phalanx behind partial birth abortion and redefining marriage into oblivion and opposes biblical free market principles? Look no further than "America's Pastor" and the Saddleback Church, where Obama and Hillary were guests last year. Rick Warren, while claiming to be acting in a Christian, conciliatory manner, treating these leftwing politicians as though they were ideological equals

EXCELLENT!

61 posted on 03/22/2008 8:25:09 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Guess it comes with the territory when one is Always right.

HEY, I'm always right and I can't stand these guys! They're distorting the truth BIG time.

62 posted on 03/22/2008 8:26:09 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

No we can blame it on the liberalizing of the American church, of which Ashley Smith is just one small example.


63 posted on 03/22/2008 8:27:06 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Graybeard58
I understood The Purpose Driven Church better when I substituted the word 'customer' whenever Warren used the word 'seeker'.
64 posted on 03/22/2008 8:28:10 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: xzins
A student of many of Barna's past studies suggests that "born again" is now used so loosely that it has virtually no ability anymore to distinguish between conservative and liberal Christians.

That too. I think that falls in with the general liberalizing of the church - anything goes as long as you say you love Jesus (whoever you think he is).

65 posted on 03/22/2008 8:28:43 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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How is it possible that seemingly devout Christians could support the party... The GOP betrayed them and broke promises to many times...

But that doesn't answer THAT question - it may answer why they don't support the GOP but not why they would vote for Swillary or Obamination.

False teachers and lazy naive immature Christians and CINOS combined add up to people like Jim Wallis, Tony Campolo, and other marxist apostates gaining credibility as "Christian voices." They are anything but Christian. Rick Warren is a useful idiot.

66 posted on 03/22/2008 8:31:38 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Bob DeWaay wrote a good analysis that did just that thing! It’s called “Redefining Christianity: Understanding The Purpose Driven Movement” and I highly recommend it. He is a true pastor and preaches and teaches the truth faithfully and clearly.


67 posted on 03/22/2008 8:32:46 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Ann Archy

I guess if Rick and Joel were buying $23,000 commodes they might look at them too. But realistically I must agree Osteen and Warren while they are not poor, aren’t quite as goofy and extravagant as the Word Faith teachers who think they deserve to live like royalty.

That doesn’t excuse their false teaching however.


68 posted on 03/22/2008 8:34:36 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

Thanks for the reference. I’ll look into it.


69 posted on 03/22/2008 8:37:32 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Terriergal
****No we can blame it on the liberalizing of the American church, of which Ashley Smith is just one small example.****

Nah. I'm not blaming Ashley Smith. If it weren't for her the Atlanta Police Department might STILL be looking for that murderer....ahem...alleged murderer.

Maybe if she had read the book More Guns Less Crime she would have saved the State Of Georgia a few more bucks.

70 posted on 03/22/2008 10:33:44 AM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (I'm a happy man, I have a new battery for my remote control!!!)
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To: Terriergal

Why was this thread vacant for almost a month and then it picked up again last night. LOL!


71 posted on 03/22/2008 10:34:28 AM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (I'm a happy man, I have a new battery for my remote control!!!)
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