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US sees Palestinian forces needing billions in aid [for weapons, they don't have enough]
IMRA ^ | 2-9-08

Posted on 02/09/2008 3:53:26 PM PST by SJackson

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To: Laptop_Ron
You’re asking a people to change their culture and asking both ‘gangs’ to give up their power. It’s not going to work.

Telling, not asking. Perhaps they won't dissapoint, but if they do, that's the end of the checks.

21 posted on 02/09/2008 4:43:34 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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US sees Palestinian forces needing billions in aid

Then let the EU cough it up, they love 'em.

22 posted on 02/09/2008 4:43:45 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: SJackson

Agreed, but when do you draw the line? This has been going on for well over 30 years (only the characters change)? When do the checks really stop?


23 posted on 02/09/2008 4:45:46 PM PST by Laptop_Ron (Some people's sole contribution to society is carbon dioxide.)
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To: SJackson

And to think some here suggested Condi as a potential VP choice.

(shudder)


24 posted on 02/09/2008 4:46:31 PM PST by airborne (I'm leaving the Republican Party! They do not represent me or my values!)
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To: SJackson
They'll take the arms, they can kill Jews with them, but lack of arms and training isn't the problem.

What if we just gave every Palestinian -- man, woman and child -- an AK-47 and one magazine of ammunition?

Would that help solve the problem?

25 posted on 02/09/2008 4:46:51 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: SJackson
American officials estimate billions of dollars needed to train and restructure PA security forces

Let's spend a few thousand dollars teaching them yoga and meditation instead. They need to maintain their peaceful innocence. Those mean old Israelis can keep the guns and worry about security for them. ;)

26 posted on 02/09/2008 4:48:36 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Recon Dad

And right you are.

Where are they getting all the missiles they’re shooting at Israel - Ah food and education funds. Let the Saud’s take care of them as already proposed.


27 posted on 02/09/2008 5:08:43 PM PST by mcshot (Missing my grade school desk which protected from nuclear blasts.)
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"American officials estimate billions of dollars needed to train and restructure PA security forces; only $86 million spent so far. None of funds garnered from Palestinian donor conference earmarked for security overhaul."

Lets see, "palestinians" carry automatic weapons and fire them openly in their streets. Americans may not carry fire arms openly in most states; in fact most states won't let American citizens carry fire arms at all. Just to buy a pistol or revolver an American citizen must submit to some sort of "background check" What sort of background checks are these "palestinians" subject to? And we Amercians now must supply and pay for automatic weapons for these lunatics while Americans are not even permitted to own a automatic weapon without large fees and the Federal government looking over our shoulders.

Take notice of the violent crime that now occurs in our nation against citizens; but try to pervent or protect yourself against it and your branded a criminal. It's time for a new government in my opinion.

28 posted on 02/09/2008 5:11:01 PM PST by StormEye
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The world screamed when the Israelis cleaned out the refugee camps in Lebanon in the 80’s. We have pulled back on the leash every time Israel strikes back.

We must live in la la land to think the repartition of Israel will result in peace. We are held back by our oil needs and in turn hold Israel back from an intolerable situation.

29 posted on 02/09/2008 5:29:46 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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The world screamed when the Israelis cleaned out the refugee camps in Lebanon in the 80’s. We have pulled back on the leash every time Israel strikes back.

We (USA) must live in la la land to think the repartition of Israel will result in peace. We are held back by our oil needs and in turn hold Israel back from a permanent fix to an intolerable situation.

30 posted on 02/09/2008 5:31:15 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: SJackson

We’ve been down this road already. We spent a fortune training Arafat’s already well trained fighters. Arafat turned those men against Israeli women and children.

Then, within a few years they abandoned their posts and handed all their weapons, and all their files, and all their weapons over Hamas as they fled into the arms of Israelis.

The idea of trying to force, coerce or bribe change out of the Palestinian leadership is a joke. They will reform when they realize reform is the only path that will truly help them. As the west continues to lavish them with cash - and promises of billions more and talk of even billions more - there is no incentive for them to change their ways.


31 posted on 02/09/2008 5:33:49 PM PST by monkeyshine
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Abu Abdullah of Hamas' Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades of Hamas' military wing (Gaza, June 20, 2007).
"We have no worries about running out of weapons or ammunition
thanks to your (stupid, corrupt, terrorist-supporting) American government.
"

32 posted on 02/09/2008 7:06:19 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: SJackson

Train and “restructure”? Does that include lobotomies?


33 posted on 02/09/2008 7:16:06 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: SJackson
$7 billion for weapons for Fatah? We've been doing this for 13 years now, time to change the pattern. Condi, I know you're wrapped up in Alabama and all the stuff, but GWB, are you really this stupid.

Makes Ron Paul's anti-interventionism foreign policy notions sound pretty sensible to me.

34 posted on 02/10/2008 6:52:30 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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