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I'm wondering if Obama might be the better match up for the GOP

Posted on 02/09/2008 7:43:24 PM PST by Jaguarmike

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To: Azzurri

Not only that, but even Kerry carried 95% of the black vote. So Obama will not do much better than Kerry among blacks, but likely much worse among whites and Hispanics.


41 posted on 02/09/2008 8:32:09 PM PST by nwrep
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To: org.whodat

There are Dem governors elected frequently in deep red states. See Oklahoma. Against Obama, McCain will not lose any of the Bush states. Can anyone name one thing Obama has done? No. He’ll pale in comparison on a truly national stage where enough of public won’t fall for well-spoken nothingness.


42 posted on 02/09/2008 8:35:50 PM PST by Round 9
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To: docbnj
McCain will be lucky if he carries a single state.

What are you smoking. I can't stand McCain, but in the general election he will carry :

New Mexico

Arizona

Alabama

Mississippi

Tennessee

Texas

Oklahoma

Kansas

The Dakotas

Nebraska

Wyoming

Montana

Kentucky

Alaska

Utah

Colorado

West Virginia.

43 posted on 02/09/2008 8:38:02 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: FJB2

LOL, sure he will, by the way I have a real hot deal on some bridge stock.


44 posted on 02/09/2008 8:47:57 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Jaguarmike

Obama is probably getting votes from republicans/independents who see that as the best way to beat Hillary and McCain.


45 posted on 02/09/2008 8:52:37 PM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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One thing I haven’t heard on Rush or talk radio yet.

They seem to act as if the only way to go is support McCain to stop Hillary.

I was thinking about that, You know, if everyone supported Obama we would stop both McCain & Hillary from being president.

So that means we have Obama, but wouldn’t that ‘UNIFY’ conservatives & Republicans like never before?

If McCain or Hillary get in, we have the same fight over immigration anyway.

Comments? From a Fred Thompson supporter.

46 posted on 02/09/2008 8:53:51 PM PST by msnpatriot
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To: FReepaholic

BS. (post 8)


47 posted on 02/09/2008 8:56:13 PM PST by incindiary (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: muawiyah

“A prediction ~ Obama will carry all the delegates in Virginia. This is the only state in modern times to elect a black man as Governor.”

Catch a clue: Deval - Mass.


48 posted on 02/09/2008 9:04:45 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: msnpatriot

Obama is a muslim, with allegiance to black nationalists. Pining for an Obama victory is tantamount to treason.


49 posted on 02/09/2008 9:16:45 PM PST by nwrep
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To: buccaneer81

And not only that, with Lieberman’s backing, Connecticut will be in play. Also, Florida, with its large Hispanic population, will be out of reach for Obama.


50 posted on 02/09/2008 9:19:06 PM PST by nwrep
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To: org.whodat

Okay, which states will he lose to Obama?


51 posted on 02/09/2008 9:20:35 PM PST by Round 9
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To: Jaguarmike

Obama will only get the idiots to vote for him.

Oh, wait...


52 posted on 02/09/2008 9:20:44 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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To: FJB2

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm


53 posted on 02/09/2008 9:34:00 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Obama doesn’t have a prayer in either Florida or Ohio or Missouri. The last Massachusetts polls had McCain beating him 50% to 45% for Obama.

Obama is toast. (And he won’t be their nominee anyway.)


54 posted on 02/09/2008 10:40:24 PM PST by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: buccaneer81

Don’t bet on the Republicans carrying Colorado.


55 posted on 02/09/2008 11:54:35 PM PST by goldfinch
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Devil is a front man ~ Wilder ran his own campaign and debated the issues.
56 posted on 02/10/2008 6:04:07 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: org.whodat

What does that have to do with red states McCain will lose to Obama in 2008?


57 posted on 02/10/2008 7:06:18 AM PST by Round 9
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To: muawiyah
A prediction ~ Obama will carry all the delegates in Virginia. This is the only state in modern times to elect a black man as Governor.

But didn't Wilder underperform relative to pre-election polling data? Hence the term "Wilder Effect" (Sometimes known as "Bradley Effect" for CA's Tom Bradley).

That said, I think you'll be proven right - northern VA has grown so full of left-leaning Democrats since Wilder's days Obama's numbers there should overwhelm anything Clinton can do downstate.

58 posted on 02/10/2008 7:12:25 AM PST by Heatseeker
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To: Heatseeker
If you but expand your definition of Northern Virginia to encompass the three Congressional districts it now has (rather than just the Easternmost district occupied mostly by Jim Moran's imprimatur) you'll see that election results here are pretty consistent with what they were 20 and 30 years ago.

We are not being swamped with mind-numbed Democrats. On the other hand, we have a far larger population base with which to be concerned, and folks have moved West, North and Souf'.

Wilder got into office on the strength of Republican cross-over voters anyway.

At the same time substantial numbers of Democrat whites refused to vote for him. I think that's what screwed up the pollsters ~ and recalling it, that's why I think it will continue to be a factor in any election (where votes actually get counted ~ not Massachusetts for example) where a black Democrat is at the head of the ticket.

We saw this effect in Maryland and Ohio in 2006 ~ the Republican candidates for Senator and Governor simply could not overcome the fact that they were not getting any white Democrat crossover votes, and without them a Republican can't win either state.

59 posted on 02/10/2008 7:23:37 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jaguarmike

Obama is the Seinfield candidate. A candidate with no substance but popular due to a cult of personality. With his cult following, Obama can convince the majority of uninformed people that Marxism is good for them. That is what makes him more dangerous than the Clintons. Should Hillary take the White House, conservatives can act as the loyal opposition. With an Obama Presidency, conservatives will not oppose Obama for fear of being called racists.


60 posted on 02/10/2008 7:37:45 AM PST by Kuksool
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