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Like many, I not only paid for the ticket and the cost of attending traffic school but spent a whole Saturday attending traffic school just to supposedly keep the violation off my driving record. Man! Was I ill informed!
1 posted on 02/10/2008 6:35:01 AM PST by kellynla
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To: calcowgirl; Ernest_at_the_Beach

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2 posted on 02/10/2008 6:35:53 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

So who do they ticket?

We have four drivers in our family.


3 posted on 02/10/2008 6:36:22 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: kellynla
I think they know that with just a still photo or two and no actual witnesses they don't have sufficient proof to bring the cases to court. If they force the issue they could have the whole system thrown out by one judge. Thus they take the money they can get (and it is solely about the cash) and move on to the next sucker.
6 posted on 02/10/2008 6:49:42 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: kellynla

My son got a speeding ticket in OC and did the defensive driving course. It cost MORE than paying the ticket and he had to attend a class, couldn’t do it online. OC is pretty hard on those who bother to pay up.


8 posted on 02/10/2008 6:54:25 AM PST by buffyt (Hillary, picking up other women's underwear off the bedroom floor is NOT presidential experience!)
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To: kellynla

But if you get stopped for something else can’t they see that you have outstanding tickets and arrest you on the spot?????


11 posted on 02/10/2008 7:00:05 AM PST by buffyt (Hillary, picking up other women's underwear off the bedroom floor is NOT presidential experience!)
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To: kellynla

Hey..the government ignores the illegals when they break our laws. Why can’t we ignore laws we don’t like??


13 posted on 02/10/2008 7:04:36 AM PST by Mogollon (McCain : Supports Amnesty, embryonic stem cell research (aka abortion), Gitmo shutdown.)
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To: kellynla
records are so vague that calculating an exact number is impossible

Well, gee, there should be at least one photograph per violation. Do any of these stories ever get edited by an adult?

18 posted on 02/10/2008 7:06:30 AM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: kellynla

I would think that if you cannot face and cross examine your accuser, then you cannot be found guilty.


20 posted on 02/10/2008 7:17:00 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: kellynla
Man! Was I ill informed!

Seems these tickets/'points'/YEARLY FINES are money making scams for many states these days.

Here in TX my hubby just found out he's been convicted on ONE PART of a year old ticket (without any notice).

After 'holding' for 30 min. for DPS in Austin, I was basically told in ONE min......

"To Bad a 'mistake' was made, we cannot remove the points & fines you MUST pay for the next 3 years."

22 posted on 02/10/2008 7:23:04 AM PST by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: kellynla
I have a policy to resist speed-cameras. I go 30 MPH at all times in localities that use such disgusting, fund raising measures.

By the way, the proper speed limit has been proven again and again to be the average of all cars using any stretch of road. It's true. Speed limits are set way too low by governments to raise money through fines, and to avoid liability from bottom feeding lawyers in accident related lawsuits.

Fight back.

25 posted on 02/10/2008 7:29:05 AM PST by Rapscallion (I would rather eat rotten meat than ingratiate myself with liberals.)
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To: kellynla

It’s all about fund-raising, not public safety. Most of these intersections could be made safer by simply retiming the lights, but the authorities don’t want to end the cash cow.

Don’t pay any ticket that was not served on you personally, or served by certified mail.


26 posted on 02/10/2008 7:41:24 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: kellynla
California is loaded with laws that go unenforced. Leftists love 'em.

(1) If they pass a law, they get credit for caring--nevermind that the law doesn't solve any problem, makes a problem where there wasn't one, or makes an existing problem worse--the morons who make up the rank and file of the Leftist movement think that passing a law and--above all--caring does something good...

(2) A huge number of cumbersome laws makes selective enforcement easy. Leftists LOVE tyrants, and this empowers countless petty and grand tyrants who can enforce the laws arbitrarily--not punishing transgressions by those they like, throwing the book at those they don't like.

Leftists LOVE laws "WITH TEEETH IN THEM!" (viz. draconial laws) that they can enforce selectively!

27 posted on 02/10/2008 7:45:58 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: kellynla
Like many, I not only paid for the ticket and the cost of attending traffic school but spent a whole Saturday attending traffic school just to supposedly keep the violation off my driving record. Man! Was I ill informed!

You think any illegal alien showed up?
You should have imitated them
Next time tell them --Yo hablo Espanol

29 posted on 02/10/2008 7:49:30 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam!)
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To: kellynla

Safety is not a factor to the red light cam faction. MONEY is!


30 posted on 02/10/2008 7:55:35 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: kellynla
Meanwhile, the drivers who face up to their mistake and respond to their tickets face a $346 fine, driving school and sometimes, a spike in their insurance rates.

Holy carp! All that for one red light run?

There is a red light cam near me. I was in a hurry and thought I could scoot through on yellow, but the car in front of me stopped and sat there for several seconds before making a right turn, leaving me in the middle of the intersection when the light turned red. I was pushing it, and I take responsibility for that.

I got a ticket in the mail, accompanied by a photo of my tag, my car, and my face, since I drive a convertible -- no getting around that. It cost me $50.

Few jurisdictions send cops to knock on people's doors for a single delinquent traffic ticket -- they send notice by mail. Rack up enough, and you get additional penalties; rack up more and they get a warrant for failure to appear. Again, it's not a high enough priority for them to send officers to execute the warrant, but it's in the system, and you're nailed the next time you get pulled over or need to renew your license.

My reading is that the problem is that the tickets aren't going into the system. Meaning that if a motorist has 20 unpaid tickets, the cop won't know that when he writes another one. That is a problem.

31 posted on 02/10/2008 8:05:42 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Thud

OC California has made it far more onerous to obey the law than to ignore it when it comes to traffic laws.

This has implications for those willing to see them.


32 posted on 02/10/2008 8:10:38 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: kellynla

These cameras are DANGEROUS.

They should be illegal.

Cops should be required to pass a donut-consumption test.

If it can’t eat a donut, it can’t write a ticket!

Seriously not only are red light cameras profoundly Big Brotherish, they are dangerous. They’re put in busy intersections on streets with relatively high speed limits.

People zoom along, then *immediately* upon the yellow light, slam on their brakes.

Some legal firm, should specialize in the ensuing accidents, and go after the municipalities.


34 posted on 02/10/2008 8:16:20 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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