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There's Nothing Conservative or Principled About Helping a Democrat Beat John McCain
ChronWatch ^ | 10 February 2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/10/2008 8:53:14 AM PST by K-oneTexas

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To: K-oneTexas

John Hawkins can cry me a river. He should remember the Whigs... that’s where the republican party is going to be in 10 years.


41 posted on 02/10/2008 9:10:23 AM PST by ketsu
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To: Jewels1091
Are you talking about JM who voted against tax cuts?
And JM who wants to give constitutional rights to terrorists?
42 posted on 02/10/2008 9:10:53 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: K-oneTexas

The conservative principle at play here is:

STUPIDITY

For further information on this principle in action, see the U.S. Presidental elections of 1992 and 1996.


43 posted on 02/10/2008 9:11:18 AM PST by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: K-oneTexas
You can say that you didn't leave the party ... the party left you.

Small consolation when McCain, if he were to win, treats the people of this nation the way he treats his own constituents in Arizona.

Watch McCain show his utter disdain for people from home state when they ask about illegals.

Watch his handler threaten a woman asking about illegals raping children.

Watch McCain stand on stage and say nothing when they tell one of his constituents to "shut up!".

44 posted on 02/10/2008 9:11:34 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: K-oneTexas
"let me tell you what you are NOT doing:"

No. Let ME tell YOU what I AM doing. It's high time the Republican Party starts listening rather than talking.

I am telling you I want (and will vote for) a conservative candidate, not merely one who is slightly more conservative than the Democrat nominee.

I will no longer "hold my nose" and vote. When I do, the Republican Party looks at that and ASSUMES I must like the candidate because every four years it gives me someone similar. No mas.

Figure out a way to get a conservative nominee. You've got four years to solve the problem. I suggest two things: One, start the primary process in conservative states, not liberal ones. Two, close the voting to Republicans only. Get serious and you'll get my vote. Keep dickin' around, and you won't.

Yes. It's that simple.

45 posted on 02/10/2008 9:11:54 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: K-oneTexas
I'm probably in the minority, but I'll just come right out and say it now.

I'm voting for McCain if he's the Republican nominee.

He's pro-life and generally solid on the WOT. As long as I get those things, I can accept that I won't get everything I'd like in a President.

To be honest, I'd vote for someone a LOT less desireable than McCain to keep Hillary from the White House.

46 posted on 02/10/2008 9:12:09 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: Danae
I am not a McCain supporter, but I am a GOP supporter.

And I'm not a McCain supporter, nor am I a GOP supporter. I'm a conservative. And I don't vote for liberals, period.

47 posted on 02/10/2008 9:12:13 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: blaveda

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that’s McCain.


48 posted on 02/10/2008 9:12:17 AM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming mMore styore liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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To: K-oneTexas

Only self-promoting dopeheads like Limbaugh and Coulter want to elect a Democrat to “save” the GOP. Utter garbage. I never supported McCain. But if he is the nominee, I will support and vote for him. He would never cut and run. I truly believe the election of either Hillary or Obama would mark the end of the U.S. as the great power among nations.


49 posted on 02/10/2008 9:12:18 AM PST by montag813
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To: K-oneTexas
You are NOT looking out for the best interests of the country.

"We absolutely, positively NEED an infinitely greater number of cheap, affordable roofers, pool boys, lawn maintenance men and drywall installers, dammit!!"

50 posted on 02/10/2008 9:12:28 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Jewels1091

Do not presume to lecture me about selfish ideals!

If McCain is elected he will pass amnesty and this country will be flooded and VERY insecure so don’t try to foist that canard on me.

And since when did standing up for what you believe in become selfish? You want me to bend past the breaking point of my principles. You want us to move a little more to the left in the belief we can correct it later. We have tried that plan and lost.

Remember the definition of insanity?


51 posted on 02/10/2008 9:12:31 AM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Jewels1091
"...who will be to blame when the taxes go up, when the troops are pulled out of the middle east and it goes to he!! in a hand basket, when the gitmo detainees are brought into this country and given pony tailed jackass lawyers to get them off...who????"

I'll agree that McCain won't likely pull the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, but we already know he doesn't approve of Gitmo, and his "immigration" policies will raise the taxes more than anyone can imagine. So we can vote for McCain, or we can vote for Obama/Clinton, or we can sit it out. All three will result in the same outcome--with the possible exception of Iraq and Afghanistan.

52 posted on 02/10/2008 9:12:36 AM PST by MizSterious (If it's Hillary v. McCain, I refuse to vote for EITHER liberal !)
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To: svcw

for all his faults, his is better that hitlary or obama...this country can not afford another ‘jimmy carter’ right now, it’s too dangerous!


53 posted on 02/10/2008 9:12:49 AM PST by Jewels1091
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To: K-oneTexas

Great essay. It won’t win any converts, however, because it’s more than the principles being violated by McCain. It’s the entire GOP party apparatus which is moving leftward inch by inch that is losing the conservative base it once held. If they (RINOS) win this one (which they won’t) they will further entrench themselves deeper into the GOP and rot it from core outward.


54 posted on 02/10/2008 9:13:12 AM PST by Rudder
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To: nonliberal
I guess that means stay at home ... that will show the GOP conservatives mean business. And the GOP will come running back to conservatives. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Brokered convention. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

The Democrat Socialist Party running the USA for at least 4 years. The Democrat Socialist Party controlling Congress and passing socialist' healthcare and other laws. GONNA HAPPEN.

Problem is will a Conservative or Republican Presidency and possibly Congress in 2012 be able to rectify the damage done?
55 posted on 02/10/2008 9:13:22 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Senator Goldwater

I would never vote for hillary,hussein or paul


56 posted on 02/10/2008 9:13:26 AM PST by italianquaker (If Mccain is good enough for Fred Thompson to support then he is good enough for me)
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To: NittanyLion

Why don’t the party hacks just declare their choice for President and suspend the elections in this country?I think that’s what they would really like to do.


57 posted on 02/10/2008 9:13:29 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: K-oneTexas

I’m not voting for a jackass.


58 posted on 02/10/2008 9:14:14 AM PST by null and void (President Hillary!™ Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: montag813
"Bush is even more pro-amnesty than McCain. Don't forget that."

Which brings up the old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME."

59 posted on 02/10/2008 9:14:52 AM PST by MizSterious (If it's Hillary v. McCain, I refuse to vote for EITHER liberal !)
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To: Farmer Dean
Why don’t the party hacks just declare their choice for President and suspend the elections in this country?I think that’s what they would really like to do.

In essence that's exactly what they've already done. Open primaries, early primaries in left-leaning states, etc. The result was preordained.

60 posted on 02/10/2008 9:15:14 AM PST by NittanyLion
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