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There's Nothing Conservative or Principled About Helping a Democrat Beat John McCain
ChronWatch ^ | 10 February 2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/10/2008 8:53:14 AM PST by K-oneTexas

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To: robertpaulsen
Figure out a way to get a conservative nominee. You've got four years to solve the problem. I suggest two things: One, start the primary process in conservative states, not liberal ones. Two, close the voting to Republicans only. Get serious and you'll get my vote. Keep dickin' around, and you won't.

Yes. It's that simple

Whoa.

Dude... I practically leapt out of my seat and moved to nominate YOU, just then. ;) ;) ;)

61 posted on 02/10/2008 9:15:28 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Senator Goldwater
Doing ANYTHING to assist Hillary Clinton in securing power over the government and military is completely asinine.

What is asinine about it? Even John McCain said she would make a good President!

62 posted on 02/10/2008 9:15:32 AM PST by suijuris
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To: K-oneTexas

John Hawkins has it just about right. I respect his opinion. Seeing Hillary or Obama as POTUS/CIC doesn’t serve our troops well at all. Having said that, I’ll take a wait and see attitude for now. Nine months till the election is an eternity in politics.


63 posted on 02/10/2008 9:16:50 AM PST by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: oblomov
In other words, stop complaining and swallow this welfare state poison?

The arguments contained in the posted article are not going to go away. Sometime over the next nine months you might consider responding to them substantively.

64 posted on 02/10/2008 9:17:24 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: NittanyLion

“Open primaries, early primaries in left-leaning states, etc. The result was preordained.”

Exactly and it wasn’t by coincidence. The GOP establishment had decided they wanted to go left and they sep the Party machinery up to get the result they wanted.


65 posted on 02/10/2008 9:17:36 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Big Government Evangelicals.....leading conservatives to Landslide 2012)
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To: K-oneTexas
Conservatives have to stop the bleeding and McCain is a burst artery.

Conservatives have an opportunity to elect a Congress in two years and a real conservative President in 4. Two years of a Dem is hardly the mess that will result from a continuous stampede of RINOs..

66 posted on 02/10/2008 9:18:37 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: K-oneTexas


As much as I dislike John McCain, we owe it to our troops to vote for him. If Iraqis begin to think
a Democrat can win the White House, local intelligence from tips will dry up remarkably fast.
That will put our men and women in Iraq in grave danger and imperil the success of the surge.

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67 posted on 02/10/2008 9:18:44 AM PST by OESY
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To: montag813

Vote for my liberal are I’ll cry probably would have made more impact.


68 posted on 02/10/2008 9:18:59 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: OrioleFan; K-oneTexas
K-oneTexas ~ "What would Reagan do"

OrioleFan ~ His 11th commandment comes to mind:

"Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican."

You are making the assumption that McCain actually is a Republican. Other than he's calling himself a Republican, where's any objective proof?

69 posted on 02/10/2008 9:19:46 AM PST by null and void (President Hillary!™ Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: K-oneTexas
And the GOP will come running back to conservatives. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Of course not. When was the last time you saw liberals run en masse back to conservatives? Any conservative still lashing their hopes to the GOP at this point needs cult de-programming therapy.

70 posted on 02/10/2008 9:21:18 AM PST by TADSLOS (Republican conservatives are the Dhimmis of the GOP)
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To: K-oneTexas
There's Nothing Conservative or Principled About Helping a Democrat Beat John McCain

There's Nothing Conservative or Principled About Voting For McCain Because He Has An (R) Before His Name

71 posted on 02/10/2008 9:21:59 AM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: K-oneTexas

The real shame here is that Conservatives have laid back, assuming for some reason that the Republican party would be their standard bearer. The R’s have squandered the last 8 years, politically-speaking, with no heir-apparent, no plan more visible than a food-fight.

Voting for a Democrat is the surest way to put a Democrat in the White House, it’s that simple.

Working to build a viable Conservative 3rd party - that makes sense. Trying to change the Republican Party into something different will take a long time, and opposes the fundamental bias of the two-party system of maintaining the status-quo.


72 posted on 02/10/2008 9:22:07 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: K-oneTexas
If McKeating becomes President, we won't be able to fight when he decides to grant amnesty to 15-million illegals.

We can fight President Obama.

73 posted on 02/10/2008 9:22:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: suijuris
What is asinine about it? Even John McCain said she would make a good President!

He did say that didn't he! :^)

74 posted on 02/10/2008 9:22:29 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: suijuris
What is asinine about it? Even John McCain said she would make a good President!

Stands to reason; after all, he felt precisely the same way about John F. Kerry.

McCain shills and apologists. [::shrugs::] Whaddya gonna do, huh...? ;)

75 posted on 02/10/2008 9:23:10 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: mass55th

What I don’t think others understand is that it is not just about this election. If we vote in McCain, his RINO style “conservatism” will become the norm. These liberal ideas will snowball until the Republican party is no longer the Republican party. By not voting for McCain, we are sending the party a clear message.


76 posted on 02/10/2008 9:23:37 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: nonliberal

Now Hillary has principles? Jesus, now I have heard everything.


77 posted on 02/10/2008 9:24:00 AM PST by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Hazcat
You’ve got so-called “conservatives” enthusiastically jumping off that cliff because they don’t want to support the Republican nominee for POTUS.

The alternative is HClinton/Clinton or Barry Obsama. Or even, both. That’s a possible 16 yrs. of that triumvirate tearing down the Constitution and replacing it with Sharia Communism.

I didn’t get what I wanted either, but I’m not about to allow those evil Clintons or Barry the Closeted Muslim to destroy my country.

78 posted on 02/10/2008 9:24:24 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: K-oneTexas
Your comments make way to much sense for the many people here on Free Republic who are intent on shooting themselves in the foot. Or head as the case may be.

For whatever it's worth I agree 100%.

79 posted on 02/10/2008 9:24:53 AM PST by billva
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To: NittanyLion
What leverage do conservatives have if the GOP knows they will support any nominee, no matter how repugnant?

Was it lack of conservative "leverage" that led to McCain's apparent nomination? Had the primary voters felt greater awe regarding "conservative leverage" this year would they have chosen differently in the voting booth?

I believe that if you think about it there is a lot missing from this "conservative leverage" argument. People who make this argument seem to think that this "leverage" will "force" the RNC to "give" us better candidates. But the RNC does not "give" us candidates. Candidates choose for themselves whether to run and then the primary electorate chooses from among them. So how is this "leverage" thing supposed to work?

80 posted on 02/10/2008 9:25:13 AM PST by rogue yam
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