Posted on 02/10/2008 9:37:21 AM PST by Utah Binger
Be careful, cultists may be lurking.
Romney’s undoing was the flip-flopping and campaigning as something that his record contradicted.
LOL
The Evangelicals said from the beginning that they would stop Romney.And they did starting in Iowa.
Go Jay Walking some time.
Oh, give me a break. Almost 1 in 5 Iowa Evangelical voters voted for Mitt (19%). And for every Iowa Evangelical Mitt voter, you had two Iowa Evangelical Mike voters--a 1 to 2 ratio (40%).
Now let's look at LDS voters, shall we?
In Utah, CNN said that 94% of the weekly church attenders (who weren't Catholic) voted for Mitt. Others have pointed out that 94-95% of LDS voters in both AZ & Nevada voted for Mitt.
So in those states, for every LDS Voter who did not vote for Romney, you had 16-19 LDS folks who did.
Whatever you're implying under the surface there as attribution to Evangelicals. Be consistent. Cause a 16-1 ratio and a 19-1 ratio is significantly different than a 2-1 ratio.
Are you arguing the facts presented or the fact that you just don't like (me) or McCain...I can understand and appreciate the latter, Latter Day Saint, but not your disputing the former.
But it's always fun to come to the meetings and play like you gave.
Romney did well with suburban Evaangelicals. His past RINOism and flip-flops caused some conservatives to be wary of him. As a result, they viewed Huckabee as more honest.
“Hang-ups over Mormonism proved Romney’s undoing”
I swear to God, I am not knocking the Mormon religion AND I would have voted for Mitt in the general (and did vote for him in the caucus yesterday) **BUT**
I would be just as slow jumping on the band wagon of a Jehovahs Witness. People coming to my door, over and over, to sell their brand of Jesus even after I’ve told them over and over to not come back tend to piss me off.
I am not alone. In my AO the Mormons do this far more than the JW’s and frankly it’s a pain in the ass. I KNOW people that this activity annoys, and even angers. Church-going people. People that have told the missionaries OVER AND OVER, DO NOT COME BACK.
Still they come.
It puts the LDS in a bad light. People such as myself that might otherwise be “live and let live” develop a strong aversion to you. Less literate folks then hear “odd” things about the practices of the Mormon church and that is when you start hearing words such as “cult.”
Is it fair? Probably not. Is it understandable? Only if you are willing to admit that folks are annoyed equally by salesmen at the door even if it is their brand of Jesus that they are selling.
give it a frickin’ rest! Romney’s problem was Hang-ups over his inconsistency on the issues.
I think if he would have won the nomination, people against him would use subtle jabs, etc. (via the media, democrats, etc.). That attack would exist. However, he would have been attacked more as a flip flopper or a rich guy (by the media, rats, etc.).
I’m a consistent conservative across (like many Mormons are ... so, Mormons and people like me agree on political issues ... I’m not a Mormon) the board.
My top issues for me ... personally ... are
1) Entitlement Reform
2) Energy Production/Independence
other issues are less important to me
So, on #2 ... McCain irritates the heck out of me for voting against drilling in ANWR and other domestic energy production items.
On #1, Romney infuriated me on talking out of one side of his mouth that we have to reform entitlements ... and then out of the other criticizing Fred Thompson on Entitlement Reform (as Fred actually had a plan and was willing to talk about it). Secondly, his campaign’s Robo calls against McCain for voting against Medicare Rx. One thing McCain actually did right.
Romney problem was he was all over the place with his campaign message.
I’m an evangelical and your post was offensive.
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Of those who do believe in God ( even calling themselves “Christians”), their actually beliefs are anything but Christian. Is is more like a mish mash of government school kindergarten, “Let’s all be nice!”, amorphous Deism.
Jay Walking? The idiots on the Jay Leno Show? LOL
Romney's bigger problem was that he was a fictional conservative. Where McCain might be called the anti-conservative candidate, Romney was the unconservative candidate.
The Salt Lake Trib this week said $5.2 million to Romney came from Utah (I can't recall what time period they were refencing). The Deseret News last weekend said that 79% of all GOP POTUS candidate $ went to Romney. Their totals in that article didn't add up to 100%...but if you take out the Democrat $, it looks like approximately 91% of GOP POTUS candidate $ from Utah went to Romney.
So there you go: The ratio of Utah Romney $ for a GOP candidate $ was 9-to-1--the 1 being the rest of the field combined. (And I don't see the bias & bigot patrol clambering all over LDS supporters & voters for picking a candidate due to as the Salt Lake Trib described it this week, "personal qualities"--personal qualities meaning the Mormon connection between candidate & voter. So if LDS voters could choose a candidate taking into primary consideration the candidate's religion, which is their full right to do so [& I defend that], why are Christian voters slapped around if significantly fewer of them also take a candidate's % into consideration...Gallup poll from Feb '07 indicated only 11% of ALL voters did that...and that it was less likely to be true of conservative voters...)
You say baloney, I say balogna. Hey, we're both right!
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