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Question about a Brokered Convention
02.10.08 | Perdogg

Posted on 02/10/2008 9:46:55 AM PST by Perdogg

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To: Perdogg
Brokered convention? I think not. At this point the nominating process has been manipulated so completely that the GOP leadership (with the blessing of the MSM) has bet everything it owns, and everyone it influences - body and soul - on John McCain. The die is cast, and "good" Republicans must rally to their old, ill, foul-tempered champion.

Mr. niteowl77

21 posted on 02/10/2008 10:04:13 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: Perdogg
4) George Allen Jr has endorsed McCain.

The entire Democratic Party has also endorsed McCain. They're doing "High-5's" right about now.

22 posted on 02/10/2008 10:05:16 AM PST by melt (McC"ain't" gonna beat Obama...)
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To: Perdogg

A brokered convention will yield one of the front runners, McCain or Huckabee, most likely McCain, there’s no magical candidate waiting in the wings to come in and take it.


23 posted on 02/10/2008 10:05:33 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Perdogg

” Has anyone thought this far down the road, or just want the party to implode so we can gamble with this silly notion about electing another Carter to get another Reagan?”

This “silly notion” is saner and more likely to work than the McCain alternative. McCain is a sure path to the destruction of the Republican Party and the conservative movement. The other, crazy as it may sound to people who just want to hang onto power for another four years, offers the hope that we can stand for something again. No matter what Republicans do, McCain is going to lose. We can either lose with him, which is the equivalent of losing for nothing, or we can stand on principles, and maybe get a few back.


24 posted on 02/10/2008 10:06:29 AM PST by pallis
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To: MNJohnnie; Greg F; Theophilus; Perdogg

don’t dare accuse me of being a mccain supporter, because i have not said a civil word about McCain. i intend to vote for Romney in the VA primary on Tuesday, but i have been asked to consider voting for Huckabee so as to bring about the quixotic notion of a brokered convention. i will not vote for huckabee, but i would like an answer to perdogg’s question. who represents the holy grail in the unlikely event of a brokered convention.


25 posted on 02/10/2008 10:08:05 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Perdogg

There wont be a brokered convention. Captain Queeg will be the nominee, despite Huckaphony’s delusional rantings.

The GOP has abandoned conservatives. McCain is as liberal as his opponents. The man voted against tax cuts, supports rights for terrorists at Gitmo, and will appoint liberal judges (Alito was “too conservative”). McCain’s worst offense is that he will make citizens of 20 - 30 million illegals, most of whom will end up as democrat voters, being supported by your tax dollars.

We are going to have a liberal president in 2009. We cant avoid it anymore. The GOP establishment forced Captain Queeg on us. I am actively supporting Obama because I’d rather the failures of socialism get blamed on a Democrat, not a Republican. Its time to form a new Conservative Party so that we can nominate a real conservative and take back the White House in 2009.


26 posted on 02/10/2008 10:08:48 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: Perdogg

14) How is it that I haven’t even turned 30 yet and both parties have somehow managed to produce four remaining candidates that not only do I despise with every fiber of my being but are hellbent on taxing and enslaving me? I’m blaming somebody here, so I’ll blame Baby Boomers...smooth move, hippies!


27 posted on 02/10/2008 10:10:58 AM PST by GOP_Raider (With parting breath we'll sing that song "A Utah Man Am I" RIP GBH)
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To: MNJohnnie

Actually the best think (and probably Only thing McCain can do) to get conservative support is for Him to grovel at their feet: Which he should Do!


28 posted on 02/10/2008 10:11:10 AM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: Perdogg
Good post Perdogg

Why do some keep mentioning people like powell as a possible candidate?
Candidate for which party?
29 posted on 02/10/2008 10:11:28 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Astronaut

Going by your screen name you can do that as you can fly off to the moon or Mars and live there. The rest of us have to stay grounded on earth..........;)))


30 posted on 02/10/2008 10:13:36 AM PST by BARLF
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To: GOP_Raider

We had Duncan Hunter, Jim Gilmore, and Fred Thompson run. I think those are conservative candidates. Tom McClintock has been called the next Reagan, he didn’t run.

We cannot vote for people who don’t participate.


31 posted on 02/10/2008 10:15:26 AM PST by Perdogg (Vice President Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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To: firewalk

I guess the popularity of Powell has waned a bit, but I am assuming if he wanted to run he would be popular.


32 posted on 02/10/2008 10:16:55 AM PST by Perdogg (Vice President Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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To: CIDKauf
... my military buddies say he at least will defend the country and treat the troops well.

I don't know how they arrive at that conclusion. See how he he belittles the sister of a POW in this episonde:

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

McCain and his old-boy network need to be purged from the party. I certainly do not trust him with the responibility of nomiminating Supremes and I will not vote for him under any circumstances.

33 posted on 02/10/2008 10:17:21 AM PST by balls
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To: Astronaut
“I’d rather the failures of socialism get blamed on a Democrat, not a Republican.”

I’m sorry but the failures will not be “blamed on a Democrat” if Obama is in charge no matter how bad they are. Failures will either be ignored or, if it is not possible, blamed on the “reactionary forces”, i.e. Republicans and Conservatives.

Look, if even “darlink” B. Clinton is not allowed to utter a
word of critique about Obama, no one will. We will be going third world way and I never heard about any successes of conservatism there ever.

34 posted on 02/10/2008 10:17:28 AM PST by alecqss
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To: JSDude1
Actually the best think (and probably Only thing McCain can do) to get conservative support is for Him to grovel at their feet: Which he should Do!

If McCain were to say that his first order of business if he were elected President would be to sign an executive order putting troops on the southern border with orders to actively interdict anyone trying to illegally cross, even I might vote for him in November.

35 posted on 02/10/2008 10:17:28 AM PST by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: CIDKauf
my military buddies say he at least will defend the country and treat the troops well

I've heard that from some military people. The POW's/MIA's that McCain and his "good friend" (McCain's term, not mine) John Kerry decided to declare unworthy of further consideration might disagree. But hey... both of the Johns came back, divorced and remarried well, got good-paying jobs and made lots of powerful friends... even if a few others didn't.

Mr. niteowl77

36 posted on 02/10/2008 10:18:35 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: JRochelle

When did Fred endorse McCain.


37 posted on 02/10/2008 10:19:21 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Perdogg

Brokered conventions seem to be wildly misunderstood. It’s not going to be a free-for-all where some dark horse suddenly emerges as the victor. That’s not how it works.

What will happen is that Monopoly style trading will begin for RELEASED delegates. Huckabee and McCain won’t release theirs, so it will just be a matter of who picks up more of the released delagates, McCain or Huckabee. A brokered convention is going give it one or the other.


38 posted on 02/10/2008 10:20:18 AM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Perdogg

A brokered convention would, at the very least, allow the GOP to hash this disagreement out. The results of such an event would then allow all of us to decide where we want to be, who our allies are, and what we want to support.

At the very least.

But there’s also a chance that something will happen, a leader will emerge, a platform will be put forth, a vision will be cast, that’s better than the soggy moderate/lib agenda we’re curently stuck with.


39 posted on 02/10/2008 10:20:44 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: JSDude1

Actually the best think (and probably Only thing McCain can do) to get conservative support is for Him to grovel at their feet: Which he should Do!
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I agree ... he needs to issue a paper similar to Newts 11 points... promising us the moon and the stars and he better stick to it... it’s his best shot at a win.


40 posted on 02/10/2008 10:20:58 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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