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1 posted on 02/10/2008 9:46:57 AM PST by Perdogg
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McCain will be the nominee.

There is nothing we can do to change that.


2 posted on 02/10/2008 9:50:58 AM PST by JRochelle ("But dad, Eli is copying me!" Peyton)
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the party to implode so we can gamble with this silly notion about electing another Carter to get another Reagan?

Who's the Carter in this race? Carter was a RAT. I don't see either Hitlary or Obama as a Carter. Now, McInsane is a RINORAT so is he the Carter?

3 posted on 02/10/2008 9:52:00 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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Has anyone thought this far down the road, or just want the party to implode so we can gamble with this silly notion about electing another Carter to get another Reagan?

That the ticket GOP Establishment types scream insults at your party base. That is really going to get them to support your candidate come November!

I strongly suggest McCain supporters might want to quit singing the Cult of Personality song in praise of McCain. People here know his real record. Chanting slogans about how great McCain is isn’t going to sell with Freepers. We know better. We know his political record.

It is also really stupid to be screaming insults at Conservatives or trying to play bogeyman politics by talking about “Well they are worse”. Conservatives vote for things, not just against them.

Neither screaming insults, nor browbeating us, is going to convince any of us to vote for McCain Being spun to believe in a McCain we know has never existed does not convince us to support him, it angers us because we know we are being lied to.

Right now McCain supporters best tactic is to simply talk about what the Democrat candidates are saying on any issue. Their only hope is that the Democrats manage to scare Conservatives more then McCain pisses them off.

I have no doubt most Conservatives will be scared into supporting McCain in Nov by the Democrats. Simply saying “Well they are worse” “or “McCain is really a great Conservative” isn’t going to work. We know better. We know McCain’s real record.

The Democrats themselves are your best chance of changing peoples minds about McCain. Telling us what a great guy he is isn’t going to sell to Feepers. We know his real record on things like Iraq. His real record differs quite a bit from the air brushed one presented by his campaign

Personally, I think all this Mcspam is a waste of time. I think McCain’s record for the last 8 years has so poisoned the well that McCain supporters are wasting their time. However, if McCainiacs are going to keep spamming the board with McCain ads, they might at well at least TRY to be effective, rather then merely annoying.

4 posted on 02/10/2008 9:52:34 AM PST by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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The problem I see is that there will be a reluctance for any of those candidates that we would support to step forward. It would end up being a brokered convention between Huckabee and McCain and I don’t know how beneficial that would be except we could problem get McCain to announce a conservative running mate.


7 posted on 02/10/2008 9:54:34 AM PST by Maelstorm (God never told us to build up government to offload the charity of our hearts.)
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Can’t we dig up some 200 year old DNA from the Founding Fathers and have a test-tube nominee?


8 posted on 02/10/2008 9:54:41 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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Newt is hated more than McCain.

...perhaps by Democrats. I think a lot of conservatives like him.

9 posted on 02/10/2008 9:55:16 AM PST by Zevonismymuse
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Write-in ? Lynne Cheney..... a hands-down winner.


11 posted on 02/10/2008 9:58:17 AM PST by traditional1
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In the extremely unlikely scenario of a brokered convention, the candidates with pledged delegates would release their delegates to support one of the four people who have delegates: John McCain, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul.

It is most likely that Mike Huckabee would release his delegates to put Senator McCain over the top or else Mitt Romney might do the same.

Back room deals and concessions would determine who released what to whom.


12 posted on 02/10/2008 9:58:35 AM PST by jamese777
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With the lead McCain has now, and well over halfway to the number of delegates he needs, there is no way the Repub convention will be brokered. We need to all start our decision process as to whether we will actively support him against Hillary or Obama, or not. Simple as that.


13 posted on 02/10/2008 9:59:15 AM PST by Emile ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat" -- R. Reagan)
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That is the ticket. Don’t bother to read anything, don’t think about anything. Fire off your preprogrammed McSpam response in under 48 seconds from my post.

And you people wonder why in Freeper poll after poll you cannot gain any support for McCain?

Try actually thinking instead of merely emoting for a change McCainbots. What you are doing is not working. Doing more of it, more shrilly is not going to change anything.

So instead of being the best campaigners for a Hillary’s campaign with your obnoxiously arrogant hysteric posts, shut up and actually listen for a while to hear what Conservatives are telling you.

You need their votes, they do not need your Hillary Lite Candidate.

14 posted on 02/10/2008 10:00:01 AM PST by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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I will vote Republican in November. Right now it looks like my vote will be considered AGAINST Hillary or Obama not FOR the Republican nominee.


16 posted on 02/10/2008 10:00:54 AM PST by seekthetruth
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well the answer is simple, we need to nominate someone at everyone can agree is a conservative and everyone can agree with his religious views as well. Otherwise screw him I wont vote and let Hillary/Obama win!
17 posted on 02/10/2008 10:01:07 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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What’s this brokered convention talk? It wont happen on the Republican side, but may on the Democrat side.


18 posted on 02/10/2008 10:01:59 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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(12) No, since the GOP acts as merely a wing of the DNC.

(13) See you at the media sponsored McCain weenie roast in November.

20 posted on 02/10/2008 10:03:33 AM PST by TADSLOS (Republican conservatives are the Dhimmis of the GOP)
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Brokered convention? I think not. At this point the nominating process has been manipulated so completely that the GOP leadership (with the blessing of the MSM) has bet everything it owns, and everyone it influences - body and soul - on John McCain. The die is cast, and "good" Republicans must rally to their old, ill, foul-tempered champion.

Mr. niteowl77

21 posted on 02/10/2008 10:04:13 AM PST by niteowl77
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4) George Allen Jr has endorsed McCain.

The entire Democratic Party has also endorsed McCain. They're doing "High-5's" right about now.

22 posted on 02/10/2008 10:05:16 AM PST by melt (McC"ain't" gonna beat Obama...)
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A brokered convention will yield one of the front runners, McCain or Huckabee, most likely McCain, there’s no magical candidate waiting in the wings to come in and take it.


23 posted on 02/10/2008 10:05:33 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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” Has anyone thought this far down the road, or just want the party to implode so we can gamble with this silly notion about electing another Carter to get another Reagan?”

This “silly notion” is saner and more likely to work than the McCain alternative. McCain is a sure path to the destruction of the Republican Party and the conservative movement. The other, crazy as it may sound to people who just want to hang onto power for another four years, offers the hope that we can stand for something again. No matter what Republicans do, McCain is going to lose. We can either lose with him, which is the equivalent of losing for nothing, or we can stand on principles, and maybe get a few back.


24 posted on 02/10/2008 10:06:29 AM PST by pallis
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There wont be a brokered convention. Captain Queeg will be the nominee, despite Huckaphony’s delusional rantings.

The GOP has abandoned conservatives. McCain is as liberal as his opponents. The man voted against tax cuts, supports rights for terrorists at Gitmo, and will appoint liberal judges (Alito was “too conservative”). McCain’s worst offense is that he will make citizens of 20 - 30 million illegals, most of whom will end up as democrat voters, being supported by your tax dollars.

We are going to have a liberal president in 2009. We cant avoid it anymore. The GOP establishment forced Captain Queeg on us. I am actively supporting Obama because I’d rather the failures of socialism get blamed on a Democrat, not a Republican. Its time to form a new Conservative Party so that we can nominate a real conservative and take back the White House in 2009.


26 posted on 02/10/2008 10:08:48 AM PST by Astronaut
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14) How is it that I haven’t even turned 30 yet and both parties have somehow managed to produce four remaining candidates that not only do I despise with every fiber of my being but are hellbent on taxing and enslaving me? I’m blaming somebody here, so I’ll blame Baby Boomers...smooth move, hippies!


27 posted on 02/10/2008 10:10:58 AM PST by GOP_Raider (With parting breath we'll sing that song "A Utah Man Am I" RIP GBH)
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