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Pennsylvania and Racism
Pennsylvania and Racism ^ | 021208 | Evan Dawson

Posted on 02/12/2008 8:50:00 PM PST by Fred

Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell says Barack Obama is going to lose votes because some white voters are not ready for a black president:

"I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate."

Rendell also said he thought race cost his Republican opponent, former NFL star Lynn Swann, around five points in the 2006 election for governor.

Rendell's statement was jarring for me. Last summer, at my wife's high school reunion, I met a guy who grew up in Penn Yan and now works for a nuclear facility outside Pittsburgh. He's a Libertarian who strongly supports Obama, and I can almost remember what he said that night word-for-word:

"If this election were based on brains or policy, Obama would win. But I don't know one white voter in the Pittsburgh area who will vote for a black candidate."

"You're obviously over-stating it," I replied.

"I'm not. And I mean both parties. When I talk about Obama, I hear the kind of racism that would make you sick. I mean sick. And it makes me very, very sad."

I haven't spoken to him since that night. Throughout the primary season, I thought about calling him to see if his perceptions have changed. After all, we're well over halfway through, and if race were a preventative factor, Mr. Obama would be out of the contest.

Which is why Governor Rendell's comments came off as all the more shocking to me. If this were one of the opening primaries, perhaps I could understand. The governor has a reputation for eschewing tact in favor of honesty.

But states in every corner of the country have demonstrated that if racism or sexism still exist (and surely they do), they are not strong enough forces to derail qualified candidates.

And so Governor Rendell should have kept his thoughts to himself. He might very well be right, but the problem is that there is no scientific way of ever knowing if he's right. As such, the blunt governor should have given voters in his state more credit.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: blackpresident; clinton; edrendell; fasteddie; huckabee; mccain; obama; pa2008; rendell; slickeddie
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1 posted on 02/12/2008 8:50:15 PM PST by Fred
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To: Fred

From what I have heard around here, Rendell’s statement was accurate.


2 posted on 02/12/2008 8:53:33 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: Fred
Losing votes should be the least of his worries. If I were he (and I know there are people around him worried about this) I'd be more worried about getting shot. I can't recollect a national political figure with his kind of charisma who didn't get shot. Kennedy brothers, MLK Jr., Reagan, et al.

I'm not saying this is what I want to happen or what should happen. I'm just saying I think the odds are better than even. His skin color, and his being the first AA to have a legitimate shot at the White House, compound this problem.

But if he's shot and lives through it, and continues with the campaign, this will solidify his messianic status among his supporters, and he'll ride that wave into the Oval Office.

3 posted on 02/12/2008 8:55:49 PM PST by squidly
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To: squidly

No tin foil hats allowed on this post.


4 posted on 02/12/2008 8:57:20 PM PST by Fred (Looking Forward to Impeaching the other Clinton)
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To: joyce11111

Rendell must be canvasing for Hillary’s VP.


5 posted on 02/12/2008 8:58:35 PM PST by Fred (Looking Forward to Impeaching the other Clinton)
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To: Fred

As a born and bred Keystoner, I’d be shocked if Obama loses here. The state seems to be psuedo-libertarian, and there is a large hatred of the Clintons. Not that Obama is any better regarding policy, but he doesn’t scream “I’ll take your freedom for the greater good of the motherland” like Clinton. I wish Swann beat Rendell last year, but he tied himself too closely to Bush. Losing Santorum really hurt too, but I think Barletta is on the fast track.


6 posted on 02/12/2008 8:59:16 PM PST by Rob112586 (All I ask is a tall ship, and a strong wind to steer her by)
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Fast Eddie Rendell, no one gives a damn about his race. They do care, however that his middle name is “Hussein.”

What a sorry-assed lot the voters have:

McPain the megalomaniac - loves illegal aliens hates tax cuts etc.

The evil Hildabest

And a Muslim leftist Marxist.

What in the hell are we coming to?


7 posted on 02/12/2008 9:02:19 PM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: squidly

Kennedy was killed because he stepped on way too many toes. Obama, while charismatic to be sure, is as establishment as the day is long. And unlike Hillary, he doesn’t have the built in unlikeability that would turn most people off. He could get on TV, tell us about how he’s banning firearms, legalizing homo marriage, and enacting a North American Union and still a relative majority would love him. Bill Clinton was the same way. If they weren’t in politics, they’d be selling used cars or hosting game shows.


8 posted on 02/12/2008 9:04:26 PM PST by Rob112586 (All I ask is a tall ship, and a strong wind to steer her by)
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To: Rob112586

Rendell is mistaken, PA did elect a black president, BJ Clinton..


9 posted on 02/12/2008 9:07:03 PM PST by Fred (Looking Forward to Impeaching the other Clinton)
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To: joyce11111
From what I have heard around here, Rendell’s statement was accurate

Rendell said white conservatives wouldn't vote for Obama. He should have said white democrats

Lynn Swann ran against him for governor

10 posted on 02/12/2008 9:07:46 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Albright ZaPeezda)
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To: joyce11111
From what I have heard around here, Rendell’s statement was accurate

Rendell said white conservatives wouldn't vote for Obama. He should have said white democrats

Lynn Swann ran against him for governor

11 posted on 02/12/2008 9:07:52 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Albright ZaPeezda)
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To: Fred
Re: Pennsylvania and Racism

Well, come on! Tell us? Are they for it... or agin' it?

12 posted on 02/12/2008 9:08:56 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: gemoftheocean

“What a sorry-assed lot the voters have:
McPain the megalomaniac - loves illegal aliens hates tax cuts etc.
The evil Hildabest
And a Muslim leftist Marxist.
What in the hell are we coming to?”

You took the words right out of my mouth.
Read my tag line....
I may have to add to it, “and not likely to return” :(


13 posted on 02/12/2008 9:09:11 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Fred
Rendell also said he thought race cost his Republican opponent, former NFL star Lynn Swann, around five points in the 2006 election for governor

Change the R next to the name to a D and it would have been landslide Lynn instead. Methinks the Edsters corrupted fellows in Philly shaved off a few points of the totals instead.

14 posted on 02/12/2008 9:09:46 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: gemoftheocean
I am amused that with the Republican primary having already been decided, Republicans now have the opportunity, such as in PA until March 23rd, to change parties or cross over in order to vote for whom they would rather see as the Democrat nominee.

Fitting to see that the rules of the primary system which were structured to benefit Democrats can now be used against Democrats.

15 posted on 02/12/2008 9:09:53 PM PST by Rational Thought
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Born and raised in PA. Lived there 30 years. Like everywhere else, there are pockets of people with a certain way of thinking. But Rendell's comment says more about the people he knows than all the people in PA. And he probably knows Democrats. I'm not at all suprised to hear Democrats are racist.

About this quote:

He's a Libertarian who strongly supports Obama

This guy is not a Libertarian if he supports Obama.

16 posted on 02/12/2008 9:10:51 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Fred

As a lifelong PA midstater I have to agree with those who have described “Pennsyltucky” as liberal at both ends with Alabama in between.

The “blue cities” will go for Obama but not the ‘burbs. Very close, but Hilary’s first big win. Too late to do her any good.


17 posted on 02/12/2008 9:10:51 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be Exorcised.)
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To: AlexW

You would actually leave the greatest country on earth because of some politicians?

Bye. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass.


18 posted on 02/12/2008 9:11:06 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: gemoftheocean

That’s kind of how I’m feeling tonight...

By the way Rendell is a dumb jerk. And so are the idiots that voted for him...and will vote for Obamama


19 posted on 02/12/2008 9:13:41 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Tired of Taxes

suprised = surprised


20 posted on 02/12/2008 9:13:58 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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