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The Battle Begins--McCain vs. Obama.
The Weekly Standard | Frontpagemagazine ^ | February 13, 2008 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 02/13/2008 4:44:50 AM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson

McCain has had a lot of experience at screwing over the people who are now supposed to vote for him.

This voter will treat him the same way “the maverick” treated us.

Go for it old fart, hope you get those Dems and moderates to turn out for you.


21 posted on 02/13/2008 5:04:14 AM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: SJackson

Fox news interviewed an Obama supporter in a Cleaveland diner for brekfast. The man said healthcare was his most important issue and he needed his health insurance costs to go Down. He then said and I’m not lying, I hope he (Obama) doeesn’t act like the rest of them and raise taxes.


22 posted on 02/13/2008 5:04:32 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . "You can't be that way"......... Clint)
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To: SJackson

I was ready to rally around McCain after CPAC/Romney’s speech.

And still, he will get my vote.

But Huckabee’s lingering and McCain’s embarrasing numbers against him are deflating my enthusiasm, to say the least.


23 posted on 02/13/2008 5:05:00 AM PST by littlehouse36
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To: org.whodat

“Hillary and McCain are both experienced experts at back stabbing.”

And, Obama is the epitomy of Ali’s ‘Rope-a-dope’ strategy and that will be very difficult for either Clinton or McCain to counter. McCain v. Hillary is much more winnable than McCain v. Obama.


24 posted on 02/13/2008 5:05:48 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: 1curiousmind
So will experience, the tax cuts, the war in Iraq and the WOT terror in general.

Will Jewish voters line up behind Barack Hussein Obama or Joe Lieberman's guy? Will Hispanics jump,p to Obama or McCain, will Obamas message about nothing trump substance of serious times?

Hillary was an unlikeable candidate who is also very phony. That did her in against a likable and seemingly genuine Obama. that said he is very very very weak on substance.

If you look at individual states, I think California, New Jersey and Connecticut will all be in play for Republicans while no Red states will be in play for Obama.

25 posted on 02/13/2008 5:06:14 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: DugwayDuke
It will work when someone else but Hillary does it and asks specifics. That’s Barack Obama’s weakness.
26 posted on 02/13/2008 5:10:00 AM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: DugwayDuke
True, but McCain in the end would and will lose against either one. But you are correct, against Obama it will be a turkey shoot, McCain will will set a new record.
27 posted on 02/13/2008 5:13:05 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: normy

I hope you’re right. I have my doubts though. I think the most disturbing thing about last night’s results was that Obama did so well with Hispanics. Not good news.


28 posted on 02/13/2008 5:13:16 AM PST by 1curiousmind (Republican Primary now mimicks Survivor- only the truly gifted liars are left)
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To: 1curiousmind
Unfortunately, the Republican establishment was betting on Hillary....They lost.

And like 2006, the large contingent of "I'd rather stay at home true conservatives" played no role.

Sorry, you can't blame the "establishment", whoever thay are, for lousy turnout.

29 posted on 02/13/2008 5:16:21 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SJackson

I will vote and support John McCain. I’ll take him any day over the crypto-islamic, unpatriotic, Marxist Hussein Obama.
All principles in honor, but those conservatives who boycott this election are giving free reign to Hussein Obama. Islamomarxist populism will conquer the White House if we don’t prevent him.


30 posted on 02/13/2008 5:16:54 AM PST by SolidWood (All conservative effort into retaking Congress!)
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To: normy
Romney got monkey stomped. i was going to vote for him in Texas but his Washington outsider message was weak obviously.

Romney was damaged immensely by Fred Thompson, a tired disfunctional candidate who never had a snowball's chance... but was coerced to enter the race and thus took many Romney votes. (I like Fred, but he had no business running)

Romney was also hurt immensely by a small but passionate group of hard-right subliminal Mormon haters who spent the past year spreading disinformation about Romney based on two or three OLD out-of-context 5-second snippets of YouTube video that proved nothing and only distorted Romney's fairly conservative record on social issues.

These Romney haters launched a massive email, snail mail campaign, and had infiltrated American Family Assoc and other conservative groups.

If you need proof of their hatred, consider the fact they are STILL emailing, writing, and posting on FR and other forums incessantly with their hate bombs .... and the man already withdrew nearly two weeks ago.

It is embarrassing in the extreme for such hatred to be couched in the Republican Party.

31 posted on 02/13/2008 5:17:54 AM PST by Edit35
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To: MBB1984
I won't be comical...it will wind up being frightening. What exactly is Obama's 'change?' Anyone? Its not too late...McCain stands a chance against Hillary. Even if McCain loses to Hillary at least we know what to expect from the previous 'Clinton Occupation.' Obama...who knows? Is there any actual Obama plan out there?

I can't believe I am saying this, but those who can cross over in the primaries should...Hillary!

32 posted on 02/13/2008 5:21:53 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. Jane Austen.)
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To: 1curiousmind

I’m afraid I must agree with you. Can you imagine debates in the fall with young, articulate, charismatic Obama against old, crochety McCain? It will not be pretty to watch.


33 posted on 02/13/2008 5:22:23 AM PST by IndyTiger
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To: mossyoaks

“Even if McCain isn’t “conservative” enough for you, he’s a darn sight better than either of the alternatives!”

Obama would be a disaster for America.

“The CIA-Brzezinski-Soros candidate specialized in duping gullible voters, wants to bomb Pakistan, a country of 160 million people that actually might fight back with nuclear weapons.” Jake Tapper

I financially supported Fred Thompson and then Mitt Romney. McCain certainly is not my 1st choice by a long shot but I will not sit by and watch this guy sail into the Whitehouse without a fight. The military in Virginia spoke last night and if for no other reason, I will support their choice at this point.


34 posted on 02/13/2008 5:22:23 AM PST by Minn. 4 Bush
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

“If you need proof of their hatred, consider the fact they are STILL emailing, writing, and posting on FR and other forums incessantly with their hate bombs .... and the man already withdrew nearly two weeks ago.

It is embarrassing in the extreme for such hatred to be couched in the Republican Party.”

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Good post. You’re dead on.


35 posted on 02/13/2008 5:23:02 AM PST by 1curiousmind (Republican Primary now mimicks Survivor- only the truly gifted liars are left)
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To: 1curiousmind
The biggest concern is that the democratic base will be more than energized, they will be on fire for Obama. The Republican base, the conservatives, will be tepid at best.

It will be difficult to fire up the conservatives with the sad, tired refrain that McCain is “not quite as bad” as Obama.

36 posted on 02/13/2008 5:23:27 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

Romney lost fair and square. Get over it already and lay off Fred. He was the real conservative in the race
37 posted on 02/13/2008 5:23:58 AM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: MBB1984

well if they stay home they will get the obama they deserve


38 posted on 02/13/2008 5:25:09 AM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: IndyTiger

I really hope that McCain can do well against him. But you know that even when a Republican wins a debate, the MSM spin it into, at best, a tie.

Let’s face it, McCain even has to use a teleprompter in his victory speaches. And he’s monotone, and simply uninspiring.

I believe even the McCain backers will have to admit that is true.


39 posted on 02/13/2008 5:27:21 AM PST by 1curiousmind (Republican Primary now mimicks Survivor- only the truly gifted liars are left)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

“It is embarrassing in the extreme for such hatred to be couched in the Republican Party.”

You took the words right out of my mouth!


40 posted on 02/13/2008 5:27:43 AM PST by Minn. 4 Bush
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