Posted on 02/13/2008 7:00:20 AM PST by jdm
Just to point out ... that's a pretty self-selecting sample, from which you probably can't make any valid general predictions.
I think just as many conservatives -- i.e., most of us -- will turn out to vote for McCain regardless of whether Obama or Hillary is the nominee.
Because, you see, most conservatives, being thinking beings, realize the alternative to McCain is far, far worse; and we choose not to let our own personal hissy fits get in the way of our reason, or the good of the nation.
Are the ballots secret?
I can’t imagine the Rats would want to go through this anymore than most Republicans do.
Reading the description it wasn’t Hillary that got booed. It was her mentioning of Obama.
El Paso
As a talk show host said....Hillary...”the Tonya Harding of Politics”.....will NEVER let a BLACK GUY beat them!!
As a talk show host said....Hillary...”the Tonya Harding of Politics”.....will NEVER let a BLACK GUY beat them!!
If you are familiar with what happens in the House when the floor managers are pushing a bill through, you will find that the conventions are similar. They will argue, and take sides, sometimes switching to give one candidate more strength, until someone emerges as the clear winner. Then everyone jumps on board the train.
thx for the new tagline. Had to modify it to fit.
Kudos where kudos are due.
It’s public.
I am not making any predictions, but I can say that after being at CPAC for three days, which is attended by really hardcore conservatives, McCain should be very worried about support from us. You can't be the party maverick thumbing your nose at conservatives and then expect them to support you in the general election just because you are attracting 31% of the Rep vote prior to yesterday's primaries.
I think just as many conservatives -- i.e., most of us -- will turn out to vote for McCain regardless of whether Obama or Hillary is the nominee.
I don't know what you are basing that statement on or how much you mean by "most." If only 10% or 15% of Reps refuse to vote for McCain, he will be a dead man walking.
Because, you see, most conservatives, being thinking beings, realize the alternative to McCain is far, far worse; and we choose not to let our own personal hissy fits get in the way of our reason, or the good of the nation.
If you are implying that I am not a thinking being or that I am not voting for McCain because I am having a hissy fit, you are wrong. If John McCain can vote on the basis of principle and conscience, so can I.
My issue is amnesty. I believe if passed, the country is finished. Once done, it can't be undone. I have invested a lot of time and effort fighting the passage of amnesty over several years. John McCain has fought us every step of the way including voting for amnesty in 2006 [S. 2611] and 2007. In the McCain-Kennedy bill, McCain and a small cabal of senators met in secret and drafted a bill, bypassed the normal committee process, tried to block all amendments to the bill, and tried to force and up or down vote in just a matter of days. So much for the democratic process.
How can I vote for someone like that, especially if I believe that his position will destroy the country? Why should I be complicit? I will vote, but not for the office of President. I will vote a straight Rep ticket, as always, but I will not vote for President. I just can't do it as a matter of honor and principle.
Let's just say that I'm not IMPLYING anything, sir. You ARE having a hissy fit, and it is interfering with your reason.
On your signature issue, the alternative to McCain is WORSE, whether it's Obama or Clinton. Your "revenge" on McCain ends up being hurting you more than if you behaved like a responsible citizen.
Hmm.
I wonder how that plays with the ‘Toons.
OTOH, it allows for them to work some kind of intimidation on the delegates.
OTOH, it opens them up to public humiliation and repudiation of historical proportions.
“obama will go down in front of the clinton machine...”
you said it.
I agree.
She talked about George Bush and Barack Obama being "all hat and no cattle,"Happy trails to you, Hillary. Happy trails to you.
And here's hoping that we never, ever meet again.
Man is it good to see her fade into the sunset.
She is “all kankle and no ankle”.
The superdelegates represent the elected and appointed establishment of the party. The Clintons have spent the last sixteen years putting most of them in power. They have campaigned for them, raised cash for them, and gotten them their jobs. Most of them are superdelegates because of the Clintons in one way or another.BFD.
Does anyone really think all those corrupt pols that the Clintons pushed into power have any sense of LOYALTY?
Does anyone think they care about the PAST?
They're all looking to their future, man, the future of what side their bread is buttered on, just like the craven Clintons themselves. And if those pols see a future of incomparable brightness and Obama, that's who they'll vote for baby.
It's asta la vista, Clintons. Your fellow rats don't need you anymore.
Question: do the superdelegates vote in public or by secret ballot?I don't think there are any secret ballots at a party convention.
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