I disagree. Obamma is a easy mark to prove that he will be the most leftist president ever. Hillary is not. She has only Bubba baggage and it's not enough to turn republicans out for the vote with McCain as the nominee..
With Obamma, they will be more inclined to vote against the man, rather than vote for McCain.
Also, you pointed out that McCain voted against prescription drugs and would lose the older voters, but how do you square that with the fact he won Florida hands down. He took that vote easily away from my candidate Romney who was big on elder care.
All I can tell you, is that I am not likely to be energized unless Obamma were to take the nomination, and that's the truth of it. I am not very worried about Hillary as president, when I feel that we will lose in any case, but when you put Obamma into the equation, things change. That guy scares the hell out of me, and it's mostly a fear that my fellow veterans all share. It will become more evident if he gets the nomination. This I can guarantee you.
No, that is not what I am saying.
I disagree. Obamma is a easy mark to prove that he will be the most leftist president ever. Hillary is not. She has only Bubba baggage and it's not enough to turn republicans out for the vote with McCain as the nominee.
Kerry was the most liberal rated senator in 2004. He almost beat Bush, an incumbent, wartime President during good economic times. McCain is far weaker a candidate than Bush and Obama is stronger than Kerry because he brings none of Kerry's baggage.
Hillary will turn out conservatives, many of whom [not me], will hold their noses and vote for McCain. If Obama is the nominee, they won't. I base that on the reaction my newly formed group, Republicans Against Maverick McCain, got during the CPAC conference. Most who signed up said they wouldn't vote for McCain under any circumstance.
Obama is nowhere near as polarizing a figure as Hillary. The very fact that more than half of the Democrats are voting against Hillary versus a candidate with such a weak resume, should be a strong indicator of how polarizing she is. Obama is actually likeable.
Also, you pointed out that McCain voted against prescription drugs and would lose the older voters, but how do you square that with the fact he won Florida hands down. He took that vote easily away from my candidate Romney who was big on elder care.
I am an immigration activist. I spent four days each in FL and SC driving almost 2000 miles dogging the McCain campaign and protesting his stance on amnesty at almost all of his events. First, McCain did not win Florida "hands down." He won with 36% of the vote narrowly beating Romney with 31% of the vote. In essence, 64% of Reps voted AGAINST McCain.
McCain's margin of victory came from Cuban-American Reps who voted for McCain almost 5 to 1 against Romney in Miami-Dade and Broward counties. Why? The difference between McCain's and Romney's stance on amnesty. It is no secret that the three Cuban-American Rep congressmen endorsed McCain and two out of the three voted [one didn't vote] against the Dec 2005 House enforcement only bill sponsored by Jim Sensenbrenner.
A little vingette: We had panel vans with signs stating "McCain=Amnesty." In most of FL, that was seen as being pejorative against McCain. In South Flordia we had people coming up to the van believing that we were supporting McCain and they asked for bumper stickers and other signs saying the same thing. When we told them that we were against McCain because of amnesty, they gave us a thumbs down.
Re McCain's stance on the Medicare Prescription Drug program, I never heard McCain mention this once during his stump speech, which I can almost recite by heart hearing it so often. I bet most seniors don't even know that. You can bet they will know it in the Fall.
All I can tell you, is that I am not likely to be energized unless Obamma were to take the nomination, and that's the truth of it. I am not very worried about Hillary as president, when I feel that we will lose in any case, but when you put Obamma into the equation, things change. That guy scares the hell out of me, and it's mostly a fear that my fellow veterans all share. It will become more evident if he gets the nomination. This I can guarantee you.
Hillary scares me more than Obama. Bill and Hill actually know how to operate inside the Beltway. They will be much more effective in getting their agenda through. I am also a veteran and don't share your sentiments about Obama. I would like to see the Clintons taken down once and for all. I hate to think of them in the WH for eight more years. That's what scares the hell out of me.
FYI: I started out for Thompson and shifted to Romney. I hope he comes back to run in 2012. I seriously doubt any Rep can win in 2008 following Bush 43.