Skip to comments.(July 28, 2006)Hillary Clinton, McCain Held Vodka-Drinking Contest
Posted on 02/13/2008 2:12:45 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
On a congressional trip to Estonia, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest!
Delighted, the leader of the overseas delegation, Sen. John McCain, quickly agreed, the NEW YORK TIMES is planning to report on Saturday.
The after-dinner game went so well -- memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much -- that McCain later told people how unexpectedly fun he found Clinton to be.
TIMES reporter Anne Kornblut has filed a story on the curious relationship between Hillary and John McCain.
"One of the guys," is the way McCain describes her.
Clinton and McCain have developed an amiable relationship. They worked together, both on the Senate Armed Services Committee and on the issue of global warming. But as the 2008 presidential campaign begins to take shape, with McCain and Clinton at the top of the polls for their parties' nominations, they are increasingly doing things that underscore their differences.
"But the interplay between the two senators -- both celebrities, both self-styled centrists, both with compelling personal narratives and a knack for infuriating their own parties' bases -- remains intriguing as they navigate the early phase of a presidential race with an eye toward conceivably running against one another."
They can't run against each other. McCain wouldn't make it through the Republican primary, nor Hilary through the Democrat primary. It's just not going to happen unless one (or gah, both) parties decide to swallow the line of electability.
And Reagan used to drink with Tip O’Neil.
I rest my case.
She probably reminded him of one of his former prison guards.
Reagan stayed conservative.
what a RINO!
McCain ain’t Reagan and Hillary ain’t O’Neill.
not by today’s standards
Don’t think I could envison anything fun about being with a drunk Hillary unless it was very, very late and I was way, way drunker.
haha it sounds like he shagged her, I hope he was keeping an eye on slick and Mrs McCain.
The first clue was her penis.
and Reagan aint running for president
They were both so drunk that McCain thought she was beautiful and thought she smelled good. Hillary thought McCain was actually sane.
I think I just lost my lunch.
No, he's as dead as the GOP.
This is, no doubt, a post to throw more votes to a 3rd party. Anyone ever so close to her will be stained.
Now that’s drunk!
Hey, Maybe McCain can make her his running mate after she loses to Obama.
And Teddy Kennedy still drinks with abandon.
Ha, you’re right.
OH TOmkow you got check out this story
what a shame the Drudge link is no longer good
This bwitch is pure evil ... and the sad part of is ... America really can't see it.
If you don't go to a church where evil is spelled out ... you have no thermometer to take the nation's temperature ... no standard to measure against what is right and what is wrong ...
and no idea what the medicine is to cure the ailment.
Alas! Poor America ... I knew thee well.
I weep for my children and grandchildren ... yea ... all posterity .. for they shall never know what I have been blessed to know.
I wonder how many shots of vodka it would take for me to consider Hillary “fun”...
Somehow I think I would pass out before I got to that point.
Maybe the two of them took a roll in the hay, together.
Now there’s a visual I will have trouble dumping from my mind.
"One of the guys," is the way McCain describes her.
The first clue was her penis.
Now THAT'S funny!
HMM. Not to sound like a prude but I prefer a President to stay sober. Do what you have to do before but not while in office. You are on call 24/7.
They were both so drunk that McCain thought she was beautiful and thought she smelled good. Hillary thought McCain was Huma, and . . .
Here’s a link to the NYT story:
Here is the New York Times article
WASHINGTON, July 28 Two summers ago, on a Congressional trip to Estonia, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting that the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest.
Delighted, the leader of the delegation, Senator John McCain, quickly agreed. The after-dinner drinks went so well memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much that Mr. McCain, an Arizona Republican, later told people how unexpectedly engaging he found Mrs. Clinton to be. One of the guys was the way he described Mrs. Clinton, a New York Democrat, to some Republican colleagues.
Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain went on to develop an amiable if professionally calculated relationship. They took more official trips together, including to Iraq. They worked together on the Senate Armed Services Committee and on the issue of global warming. They made a joint appearance last year on Meet the Press, interacting so congenially that the moderator, Tim Russert, joked about their forming a fusion ticket.
Politics being what it is, there is more friction than fusion. As the 2008 presidential campaign begins to take shape, with Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton at the top of the polls for their parties nominations, they are increasingly underscoring their differences on issues like the war in Iraq and port security. Advisers to Mr. McCain have put a stop to his inviting Mrs. Clinton on trips.
Whether their friendship is based on anything other than the respect of one political professional for another, or the opportunity to strike a tone of bipartisanship for public consumption, is unclear. But the interplay between the two senators, both well known and both with compelling personal narratives and a knack for infuriating their own parties bases, could determine the tone of the 2008 presidential race and make it less personally vicious than the last two campaigns.
Of course, Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton are a long way from facing off for the presidency. Neither has even officially announced a candidacy, and both would still have to endure a primary season that is shaping up to be intense. Neither would probably be the others first choice as a rival; both would no doubt prefer to run against someone less skilled in blurring ideological lines.
Still, members of both parties are already speculating about what a McCain-Clinton race would be like.
If they get through a primary election, they would be polar opposites on policy, said Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and a close ally of Mr. McCain who has traveled with both senators. On the major issues, itd be a fairly clear choice. But I believe that the personal relationship hopefully could survive the political process.
Harking to the days when a Republican president and a Democratic speaker of the House were friends, Mr. Graham said, Ronald Reagan and Tip ONeill, at the end of the day, would go down to the White House and knock one back, and the country was no worse off for that.
Rarely is it the case that likely presidential contenders are able to play off each other so much. Two modern races, in 1992 and 2000, pitted governors against Washington insiders, the candidates barely acquaintances. George W. Bush, then the governor of Texas, recalled having met Vice President Al Gore only a few times before they debated onstage in 2000.
Four years later, despite their overlapping years at Yale and their work just down Pennsylvania Avenue from each other, President Bush and Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, made contact almost entirely over the airwaves.
This time, with so many senators thinking about running, the primaries and potentially the general election could find the candidates squaring off against colleagues who are operating in close proximity. Mr. Kerry served in Vietnam around the same time as Mr. McCain, who defended him against Republican attacks during the 2004 race. Senator Russell D. Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, devised a landmark campaign-finance bill with Mr. McCain (and has since traveled with him and with Mrs. Clinton).
Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain, however, share not just a title, but also a general approach to politics. Both strive to be seen as willing to break with ideological orthodoxy from time to time and to work across the aisle. Both emerged from nasty political battles Whitewater and her husbands impeachment in her case, the 2000 Republican primaries in his declaring their hatred of the politics of personal destruction, as former President Bill Clinton called it.
They would run a completely different campaign than weve seen in recent memory, said Marshall Wittman, a former aide to Mr. McCain who has worked with Mrs. Clinton.
Both of them realize there is a desire in the country for a different politics of national unity that transcends the current polarization, Mr. Wittman said.
At the same time, both have endured serious presidential campaigns before and market themselves as independent power brokers within their parties.
Thats their great commonality, Mr. Wittman said. Obviously, if they faced each other in a general, they would emphasize their differences.
A friendly relationship, or just the appearance of one, brings risks and advantages to both, although political strategists agreed it was wise for Mr. McCain to distance himself from Mrs. Clinton. (One reason is that Republicans said they could imagine a photograph of Mr. McCain with Mrs. Clinton, considered one of the most polarizing Democrats in politics, being used in a negative ad during a Republican primary.) Mr. McCain is also weakest among conservative Republicans, who dislike his willingness to take independent stands and work with Democrats.
Mrs. Clinton, by contrast, has been working to convince moderate voters that she is a centrist who can work across the aisle, a claim bolstered by Mr. McCains tacit approval of her.
Both senators are accustomed to being sought out by other politicians hoping to burnish their own images. What makes their rapport different, advisers said, is that Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain are essentially of equal stature.
During their Estonia trip also attended by Mr. Graham and Senators John E. Sununu, Republican of New Hampshire, and Susan Collins, Republican of Maine Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton were the ones recognized as they walked through the streets of the capital, Tallinn.
It was during their joint trip to Iraq in late February 2005 that Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton appeared via satellite on Meet the Press, an appearance that put their civility on display. When Mr. Russert asked Mr. McCain at the end of the interview whether he thought Mrs. Clinton would make a good president, Mrs. Clinton came to his rescue, saying: Oh, we cant hear you, Tim!
Yeah, youre breaking up, Mr. McCain added, laughing. But then he said: I happen to be a Republican and would support, obviously, a Republican nominee, but I have no doubt that Senator Clinton would make a good president.
Asked the same question about him, Mrs. Clinton replied without skipping a beat: Absolutely.
Mr. McCains advisers played down their relationship, saying he was friendly with a number of Democrats. They underscore their differences every day, John Weaver, a political adviser to the senator, said of Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton. That doesnt mean you treat each other less civilly.
Philippe Reines, a spokesman for Mrs. Clinton, said: They are colleagues who have worked and traveled together on issues of interest to both, such as support for our military and global warming, and they agree to disagree on issues such as requiring greater scrutiny of foreign government ownership of our ports.
But Mr. Reines said Mrs. Clintons advisers had not noticed any recent changes in her relationship with Mr. McCain, and he declined to elaborate on the rounds of vodka.
What happens in Estonia stays in Estonia, Mr. Reines said.
Get Clinton and McCain together and they can force all those Saudis etc to do vodka shots-—who cares if they’re not supposed to drink. They are doing a hell of a lot worse acts in the name of what’s his face than drinking. I’d love to see Hillary ripped to the t*ts, she probably would be HILLARY-OUS.
We’ll be lucky if McCain doesn’t pick Hillary as his running mate (plying her with plenty of vodka to get her to agree to the second fiddle thing).
The after-dinner game went so well — memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much — that McCain later told people how unexpectedly fun he found Clinton to be.
The dirty bastard probably got laid!!
I dunno. But if it’s TEQUILA shots, all bets are off!
Thah just calls for a *rimshot* (-:
It wasn’t hers. She won it in a vodka drinking contest.
Yep. And Scalia drinks with Ginsburg. I guess to be a “true conservative” now, you must never associate with Democrats socially?
I heard Mac woke up the next morning wondering why there was Vaseline on his bum.
And when McCain woke up, his butt was sore.
Have you seen this?
“Mr. McCains advisers played down their relationship, saying he was friendly with a number of Democrats.”
Ah, therein lies the problem. And he thinks conservative Republican voters are racist bigot liars who can’t be trusted.
Weird - we have a campaign with three Democrats in the running. And one of them has to win.
It is humanly impossible to get that drunk. Some things are impossible: You cannot exceed the speed of light. You cannot get colder than “absolute” zero. Any you cannot get drunk enough to make Hillary look attractive. Sorry, it is just one of those universal constants.