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BREAKING: Study Shows Genentech and Biogen Drug Rituxan Works on Multiple Sclerosis
CNBC ^ | Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:19pm EST | Mike Huckman

Posted on 02/13/2008 5:56:16 PM PST by balls

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To: balls

Thankyou for posting this. The person I know has yet to start with infusions, but it is nice to hear of such a breakthrough and such promise of an alternative mediation, for such a time that that person might have to resort to it.


41 posted on 02/13/2008 8:26:32 PM PST by So Circumstanced
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To: balls

Reporters are lazy.

The cost is approximately 2700 per infusion, retail.


42 posted on 02/13/2008 8:31:54 PM PST by HonestConservative (No, I'm Nurse Ratchett)
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To: Daus

It’s about 6k per infusion. I know since I have had both MS and chronic lymphocytic leukemia. Fortunately, in 2006, I had a high dose cytoxan treatment along with multiple rituxan treatments that may have eliminated both the CLL and the MS. The main purpose was getting rid of the cancer, but a similar treatment has been successful in much more serious cases of MS than mine.

We’ll just have to wait and see but, the way I look at it, I’ll say I’m cured until told otherwise. The procedure was done at Johns Hopkins, which I feel is the best hospital anywhere. I truly hope that using Rituxan as a treatment is successful for MS as it would beat the once a week Avonex shots I used to have to take.


43 posted on 02/13/2008 8:32:30 PM PST by DelmarvaMike (May God watch over our troops and our President)
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To: P-Marlowe

Exactly why they cost as much as they do.

Not that they wouldn’t be high to begin with, but they are higher because of two things.

1. Lawyers.

2. Foreign theft of patents, thus US companies can only get a profit from US patients.


44 posted on 02/13/2008 8:35:29 PM PST by HonestConservative (No, I'm Nurse Ratchett)
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To: DelmarvaMike

Does it actually eliminate the condition or is it a supression treatment you have to keep taking forever?


45 posted on 02/13/2008 8:36:38 PM PST by Daus
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To: Tolkien
My wife has relapsing /remitting MS. I’ll let her know about this.

I hope this works for her! It would be wonderful if they could wipe out MS altogether.

46 posted on 02/13/2008 8:38:20 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Chgogal; balls
Thanks for the ping & the post.

B-Cell Depletion with Rituximab in Relapsing–Remitting Multiple Sclerosis

47 posted on 02/13/2008 8:42:20 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: DelmarvaMike

It costs 6,000 some because you had it done at Hopkins.

The way the gov’t gets their mits involved in Medicine, (its a long story if you want me to bore the heck out of you, if you were to be able to get it at a local infusion center), it would cost you what your pharmacy plan co pay is for any specialty drug, which could be as low as 20 bucks, and the cost of the infusion procedure by a nurse practitioner in an Oncology clinic’s co pay.

Bill from Penn for my infusions of Tysabri: 8,670.00

Bill from Oncololgist 0, Co pay for insurance 20.00.

Gov’t sucks. Capitalism rocks.


48 posted on 02/13/2008 8:44:32 PM PST by HonestConservative (No, I'm Nurse Ratchett)
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To: balls
drop in brain legions after just two infusions of the drug.

Actual pic of the brain legions:


49 posted on 02/13/2008 8:44:53 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Dude, where's my adrenaline?)
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To: HonestConservative

Although I shudder at the mere thought of both Teddy and Obambi, Democrats do in general have a better record on federal funding of intially-nonprofitable biomedical research that has made the biotech industry possible.


50 posted on 02/13/2008 8:55:08 PM PST by ruination
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To: ruination

No offense, but I’d like to see some links re cures and treatments that have been discovered with government funding.

But you knew that.


51 posted on 02/13/2008 9:05:34 PM PST by HonestConservative (No, I'm Nurse Ratchett)
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To: HonestConservative

You’re not in research are you? The entire field of molecular and cellular biology was born through publically funded research. There are no two ways about it. Monoclonal antibody technology itself, of which Rituximab is but one tiny example, arose via tax-funded research.


52 posted on 02/13/2008 9:18:55 PM PST by ruination
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To: balls
According to the study, patients using Rituxan saw a 58% decrease in M.S. flare-ups and a 91% drop in brain legions after just two infusions of the drug.

HAIL, CEREBRUM!

53 posted on 02/13/2008 9:32:28 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Daus

Avonex is about $7K per year total I think. My FIL takes it once a week. I might be way off.


54 posted on 02/13/2008 9:40:21 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: balls

Those evil American pharmaceutical companies are at it again.


55 posted on 02/13/2008 10:00:44 PM PST by jrp
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To: ruination

The development of the drug itself and its application for use in human beings was done with private investment.

The entire field of melecular and cellular biology was born throurgh publiclly funded research? That’s a pretty broad statement.

Tell me where to find this evidence and I will eat crow.

Before MS did its thing, I was indeed a Clinical Research Scientist in Pediatric Infectious Diseases, Biologics.


56 posted on 02/13/2008 10:15:58 PM PST by HonestConservative (No, I'm Nurse Ratchett)
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To: HonestConservative

If these names ring a bell, you’ll also probably know that the labs run by their owners were all heavily government subsidized:

George Beadle, Edward Tatum, Oswald Avery, Joshua Lederberg, Sydney Brenner, Barbara McClintock, James Watson, Francis Crick, Marshall Nirenberg.

And everything that they are famous for happened long before the biotech industry ever existed and made it all possible.


57 posted on 02/13/2008 10:53:56 PM PST by ruination
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To: DelmarvaMike
I have CLL as well. This s one of the wonder drugs that help to put me in remission 18 months ago.
When I hear these lib types tearing down the Pharma Companies it makes my blood boil. Goodness knows how many lives have been saved or how much the quality of life has improved for so many. I am truly fortunate to live in this day and age. My best to you and your fight back to health
58 posted on 02/13/2008 11:04:10 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: balls

My wife was diagnosed with MS back in 1996, she can barely get up to go to work but refuses to quit.She tried those outrageously expensive shots, its a proven fact I have found about the medical field, the more you are afflicted with certain diseases the more ways they have to find a way to make big bucks off of you.

Three months ago I went on workmans comp with a crushed finger, WC payed me a very sizable weekly check but I kept getting solicitations from all kinds of sources asking me for medical records, my personal info and repeat visits to doctors that did little except take a cursory look and send in a bill.

Our whole medical system is rotten with overbilling, overpriced drugs and rampant abuse of health insurance.

Screw any nationwide health plan, I would rather go to another country.


59 posted on 02/13/2008 11:08:31 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: ruination

Although government heavily subsidizes a lot of research, and a lot of other things, That research is basic and does not result in the government owning the biologic treatments or developing them, or providing them to world.

The folks doing basic research are doing remarkable work with and without government subsidies,and that is wonderful and laudable, and of course valuable, but it does not do the development, clinical development plans, pre clinical studies, clinical studies or manufacture, consistency and potency studies for the distribution of vaccines, biologics or drugs. Thank God. Private industry does.

Remember also, that subsidies and grants are only part of the funding for basic research, not the entire kettle of fish.


60 posted on 02/13/2008 11:18:05 PM PST by HonestConservative (No, I'm Nurse Ratchett)
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