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Is Al Qaeda Propaganda Forcing the Marine Corps to Reinvent Itself? [New documents revealed]
Defend Our Marines ^
| February 15, 2008
| Nathaniel R. Helms
Posted on 02/14/2008 7:06:26 PM PST by RedRover
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Note: Nat Helms is a Contributing Editor to Defend Our Marines. He is a Vietnam veteran, former police officer, war correspondent, and, most recently, author of My Men Are My Heroes: The Brad Kasal Story (Meredith Books, 2007).
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:06:28 PM PST
by
RedRover
To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:12:42 PM PST
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:12:51 PM PST
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:13:00 PM PST
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:13:01 PM PST
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: RedRover
cmon. leftist lawmakers getting fat back home know better than you how to fight a war. /sarc
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:18:22 PM PST
by
the invisib1e hand
(anyone can be a soldier in peacetime.)
To: RedRover
Their very creation demonstrates that the impact of Al Qaedas propaganda coups at Haditha and elsewhere was so great it drove the nations premier fighting force to change both how it thinks and how it wages war.With the assistance of the American media.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:21:27 PM PST
by
GVnana
("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
To: RedRover
Why not just say this: In any scenario where there appears to be an imminent threat, just run away.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:22:56 PM PST
by
bigheadfred
(THE SGT. EVAN VELA DEFENSE FUND , (See my FR homepage to help. Donate today!)
To: RedRover
Just the sort of crap rules invented by coward REMF’s. Staff pukes who avoid combat units, dancers and prancers and the stinking civilian bureaucrats who only care about CYA.
We had some clown officer try to order us to “stop using so much ammunition” when I was on the river in Nam. Ha! What kind of REMF can even conceive of something so stupid?
These people are more dangerous enemies than Al-Qaeda because there is no defense from the evils they commit in their dedication to their career paths at the expense of the troops and the nation. All to appease some leftwing freaks.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:23:14 PM PST
by
Seruzawa
(Atilla the hun... he was a liberal, right?)
To: the invisib1e hand; All
You got me there!
All: Apologies for the multiple pings. (Don't know how that happened.)
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:24:00 PM PST
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: RedRover
No, the creation of this shows the very BS our armed forces must deal with at home and abroad.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:24:26 PM PST
by
wastedyears
(This is my BOOMSTICK)
To: RedRover
Answer: The fact that the Chevy Caprice is approaching does not, by itself, constitute the hostile act/hostile intent needed to authorize the use of deadly force. Continue with EOF measures. Perhaps hand waving is not visible enough to get the drivers attention. When time and circumstances permit, wave flags or chem lights. If flags or chem lights have no effect, then progress to pyro, laser devices, pen flares, or flash bangs.Oh. My. Gosh.
If still no effect then progress to warning shots, disabling shots and finally kill shots if necessary.
IF you are still alive....
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:25:44 PM PST
by
Shelayne
(Eeny Meeny Miney Mo 2008!)
To: RedRover
This is what happens when lawyers override commander’s intent.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:27:23 PM PST
by
TADSLOS
(Be a 3.6 percenter- Write in Duncan Hunter for POTUS!)
To: RedRover
Thanks for the ping RedRover.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:27:25 PM PST
by
fatima
To: wastedyears
Breaker Morant to tbe nth degree.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:29:19 PM PST
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: RedRover
All: Apologies for the multiple pings. (Don't know how that happened.)I think it was an uncontrollable spasm. I had one when I read this.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:31:45 PM PST
by
bigheadfred
(THE SGT. EVAN VELA DEFENSE FUND , (See my FR homepage to help. Donate today!)
To: RedRover
Heaven help us all because between Al Qaeda and the left in this country, the Marines sure won’t be able to do it anymore. And Lord, keep my son out of the war zone until the brass find their balls again.
Cindie
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:31:48 PM PST
by
gardencatz
(My son is learning Arabic so you don't have to...oorah!!!)
To: GVnana
To paraphrase Yogi Berra, “I want to thank the American media for making these prosecutions necessary.”
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:32:42 PM PST
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: RedRover
What the hell? God help our Fighters. Not enough that they put their lives on the line far from home, they have to put up with this crap.
So what do you do if you got a Chevy Caprice full of muslims armed with AKs hanging out the windows, not shooting mind you, while you are disabling a VBIED in a van next to a hospital while taking fire from a mosque?
It's almost funny in a twisted sort of way if it weren't so sick.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:32:54 PM PST
by
Eagles6
To: the invisib1e hand
They cannot win on the battlefield but are having success with the eager help of the Fifth Column in congress.
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posted on
02/14/2008 7:34:01 PM PST
by
Iron Munro
(Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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