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Obama Is the Most Pro-Abortion Candidate Ever (Obama Believes in Infanticide.)
CNSNews ^ | January 09, 2008 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 02/14/2008 7:58:12 PM PST by Anti-Hillary

Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever.

He is so pro-abortion that he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions because he did not want to concede -- as he explained in a cold-blooded speech on the Illinois Senate floor -- that these babies, fully outside their mothers' wombs, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were in fact "persons."

"Persons," of course, are guaranteed equal protection of the law under the 14th Amendment.

In 2004, U.S. Senate-candidate Obama mischaracterized his opposition to this legislation. Now, as a presidential frontrunner, he should be held accountable for what he actually said and did about the Born Alive Infants Bill.

State and federal versions of this bill became an issue earlier this decade because of "induced labor abortion." This is usually performed on a baby with Down's Syndrome or another problem discovered on the cusp of viability. A doctor medicates the mother to cause premature labor. Babies surviving labor are left untreated to die.

Jill Stanek, who was a nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill., testified in the U.S. Congress in 2000 and 2001 about how "induced labor abortions" were handled at her hospital.

"One night," she said in testimony entered into the Congressional Record, "a nursing co-worker was taking an aborted Down's Syndrome baby who was born alive to our Soiled Utility Room because his parents did not want to hold him, and she did not have the time to hold him. I couldn't bear the thought of this suffering child lying alone in a Soiled Utility Room, so I cradled and rocked him for the 45 minutes that he lived."

In 2001, Illinois state Sen. Patrick O'Malley introduced three bills to help such babies. One required a second physician to be present at the abortion to determine if a surviving baby was viable. Another gave the parents or a public guardian the right to sue to protect the baby's rights. A third, almost identical to the federal Born Alive Infant Protection Act President Bush signed in 2002, simply said a "homo sapiens" wholly emerged from his mother with a "beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord or definite movement of voluntary muscles" should be treated as a "'person,' 'human being,' 'child' and 'individual.'"

Stanek testified about these bills in the Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, where Obama served. She told me this week he was "unfazed" by her story of holding the baby who survived an induced labor abortion.

On the Illinois Senate floor, Obama was the only senator to speak against the baby-protecting bills. He voted "present" on each, effectively the same as a "no."

"Number one," said Obama, explaining his reluctance to protect born infants, "whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the Equal Protection Clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a 9-month old -- child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it -- it would essentially bar abortions, because the Equal Protection Clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an anti-abortion statute."

That June, the U.S. Senate voted 98-0 in favor of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act (although it failed to become law that year). Pro-abortion Democrats supported it because this language was added: "Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive as defined in this section."

Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer explained that with this language the "amendment certainly does not attack Roe v. Wade."

On July 18, 2002, Democratic Sen. Harry Reid called for the bill to be approved by unanimous consent. It was.

That same year, the Illinois version of the bill came up again. Obama voted "no."

In 2003, Democrats took control of the Illinois Senate. Obama became chairman of the Health and Human Services committee. The Born Alive Infant bill, now sponsored by Sen. Richard Winkel, was referred to this committee. Winkel also sponsored an amendment to make the Illinois bill identical to the federal law, adding -- word for word -- the language Barbara Boxer said protected Roe v. Wade. Obama still held the bill hostage in his committee, never calling a vote so it could be sent to the full senate.

A year later, when Republican U.S. senate candidate Alan Keyes challenged Obama in a debate for his opposition to the Born Alive Infant Bill, Obama said: "At the federal level there was a similar bill that passed because it had an amendment saying this does not encroach on Roe v. Wade. I would have voted for that bill."

In fact, Obama had personally killed exactly that bill.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortionsurvivors; babykiller; barackhusseinobama; bornalive; infanticide; issues; nobama; nosuicidevoters; obama; proaborts; terencepjeffrey
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This needs info needs to get out to every pastor in America. This man is SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No way am I sitting this election out and letting Obama appoint our judges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If McCain needs the base to man the phones and walk the precincts he need to get this info out in a BIG way. I shared this with my mother-in-law and it made her sick. She will be voting for McCain.

1 posted on 02/14/2008 7:58:14 PM PST by Anti-Hillary
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To: Anti-Hillary; wagglebee; Coleus; narses; Salvation; Pyro7480

“he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions”

THAT is extreme, even more than Hillary Clinton is.


2 posted on 02/14/2008 8:02:18 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Anti-Hillary
:)And McCain’s response is in writing.
3 posted on 02/14/2008 8:03:09 PM PST by fatima
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To: Anti-Hillary

Of course he does. He’s an Islamist.


4 posted on 02/14/2008 8:03:10 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Anti-Hillary

Obamba is a baby killer.


5 posted on 02/14/2008 8:04:01 PM PST by 444Flyer (The Lord is a warrior, the Lord is His name (Exodus 15:3))
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To: Anti-Hillary

Prayers for the unborn.


6 posted on 02/14/2008 8:06:56 PM PST by sweetiepiezer
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To: fatima

What does that mean?


8 posted on 02/14/2008 8:08:09 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Lest anyone forgot, WE ARE AT WAR!!!!! NOW IS NOT THE TIME IN HISTORY TO TEACH THE PARTY A LESSON!!)
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To: Anti-Hillary

What about his pastor?


9 posted on 02/14/2008 8:08:22 PM PST by kc8ukw (Sign the ALLOW incandescent bulbs petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/incand/)
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To: sweetiepiezer

(and the born as well in this case!)


10 posted on 02/14/2008 8:09:20 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Anyone but McCain" will work about as well as "Anyone but Bush" (and for the same reasons))
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To: Anti-Hillary

bttt - and keep it there, so every Obama supporter on this forum may see it.


11 posted on 02/14/2008 8:10:50 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Since the choice for Democrats is an extreme caricature of liberalism in either Hillary or Obama, the end result is a lot of Democrats are going to be crossing the line and voting Republican, or they’ll be staying home and praying that conservatives carry the day.


12 posted on 02/14/2008 8:11:07 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Anti-Hillary

Who cares, I’m voting what Rush and Coulter tell me to vote, after all, they know best.....


13 posted on 02/14/2008 8:13:03 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Ther’s still time for another Suprmene Court judge to drop out so W can get in another Alito. I pray this happens.


14 posted on 02/14/2008 8:14:51 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: padre35

McCain isn’t really pro-life either, unfortunately.


15 posted on 02/14/2008 8:16:06 PM PST by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Anti-Hillary

I forgot to add that he also takes the racist, anti-African-American Eugenicist Margaret Sanger’s side regarding abortion.


16 posted on 02/14/2008 8:16:23 PM PST by 444Flyer (The Lord is a warrior, the Lord is His name (Exodus 15:3))
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To: Anti-Hillary

Our family is 100% pro life many many years now.

So I don’t read up on who in this country (stats) is getting these abortions and esp. late term.

THe education has been out for so long from the Pro Life groups there should not be any woman that does not know the truth.
Should be.

So my ???? is anyone know recent stats on what age group and ethnic group are most aborting?
Are these statistics even available?

I saw an interest documentary of a Brit (I think) woman and her husband who went close to term as possible with triplets.

The clencher was the third babe was not in her uterus it had ruptured her fallopian tube early on and the placenta adhered to her bladder....

Docs gave that little one no chance of survival and guess what.
They showed all three as toddlers in the end of the show ...HEALTHY

Can’t second guess God’s plans.


17 posted on 02/14/2008 8:20:21 PM PST by Global2010 (Election 2008 like playin Shoots and Ladders (ages 5 and up))
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To: Anti-Hillary

Hello,Let hm put it in writing,now,fast.


18 posted on 02/14/2008 8:22:15 PM PST by fatima
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To: 444Flyer
Democrats for Dead Babies
19 posted on 02/14/2008 8:23:58 PM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: 444Flyer
On the Illinois Senate floor, Obama was the only senator to speak against the baby-protecting bills. He voted "present" on each, effectively the same as a "no." "Number one," said Obama, explaining his reluctance to protect born infants, "whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the Equal Protection Clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a 9-month old -- child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it -- it would essentially bar abortions, because the Equal Protection Clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an anti-abortion statute."

Money quote. I'm keeping this.

20 posted on 02/14/2008 8:24:44 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: Mike Bates

Thanks for the link Mike.


21 posted on 02/14/2008 8:27:22 PM PST by 444Flyer (The Lord is a warrior, the Lord is His name (Exodus 15:3))
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To: Anti-Hillary

Obama is the conservative choice in 2008.


22 posted on 02/14/2008 8:27:26 PM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

I suspect that these facts, along with others, will come out in the general election. The MSM will try to protect him but there are other ways of getting out his extreme voting record.


23 posted on 02/14/2008 8:27:30 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: darkangel82
The Truth About John McCain (Planned Parenthood)

Human Dignity & the Sanctity of Life (official McCain platform)
24 posted on 02/14/2008 8:30:51 PM PST by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: darkangel82

Stem Cells?


25 posted on 02/14/2008 8:34:47 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: Big Giant Head

“..we define a pre-viable fetus as a person...”

The minute anyone uses the term “pre-viable fetus” they are able to disconnect their conscious, but NOT completely. He can talk and talk, abortion is killing an innocent child in the womb, period.


26 posted on 02/14/2008 8:42:13 PM PST by 444Flyer (The Lord is a warrior, the Lord is His name (Exodus 15:3))
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To: Anti-Hillary

Perhaps he is the Anti-Christ?


27 posted on 02/14/2008 8:43:21 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Anti-Hillary

Don’t worry, I will never vote for Obama, but McCain and I still need to come to terms.


28 posted on 02/14/2008 8:44:08 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Big Giant Head

Or, in Obama’s case, out of the womb!


29 posted on 02/14/2008 8:45:17 PM PST by 444Flyer (The Lord is a warrior, the Lord is His name (Exodus 15:3))
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To: Big Giant Head

——”Persons,” of course, are guaranteed equal protection of the law under the 14th Amendment.-——

One would think that a black person would be a little more aware of how important being a full “person” is. Back in the slave days they were counted as 3/5’s of a person when it came time for the census and taxes.

Also - one would think that a black person, given our history of slavery, would be even more in tune with that whole “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” thing.


30 posted on 02/14/2008 8:45:43 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: 444Flyer

It’s ironic isn’t it? Obama supports a position that was originated to cull the negro race? That’s the truth that no one wants to discuss (on either side).


31 posted on 02/14/2008 8:46:05 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: kc8ukw

Hes just a muslim pretending to be a Christain.


32 posted on 02/14/2008 8:48:43 PM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: SkyPilot

My thoughts exactly.


33 posted on 02/14/2008 8:51:08 PM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: khnyny

“It’s ironic isn’t it? Obama supports a position that was originated to cull the negro race? That’s the truth that no one wants to discuss (on either side).

So true. Politics at its self-serving worst.

Plus, “Obama for Eugenics 2008” isn’t as appealing as the whole “Time for change” rubish.


34 posted on 02/14/2008 8:59:25 PM PST by 444Flyer (The Lord is a warrior, the Lord is His name (Exodus 15:3))
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To: 444Flyer

The world is a numbers game.


35 posted on 02/14/2008 9:12:48 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: Anti-Hillary
While we are talking about Obama, check out this video on YouTube. Who knows if it is true or a Clinton plant. Interesting, none the less.

http://blog.balder.org/?p=343

36 posted on 02/14/2008 9:14:40 PM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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Bump.


37 posted on 02/14/2008 9:22:35 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Anti-Hillary

It’s hard for me to believe that a human being could hold such a position, but there are such people.

None of the 3 candidates make me feel reassured. McCain still says he would sign the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill, which means that if congress does McCain’s bidding, with the addition of millions of new votes via amnesty, eventually Dems would overwhelmingly control both houses and the presidency. That would be the end of pro-life members on the SCOTUS, after the current members step down.

I remember in the 1980s a cover of National Review in which Reagan had a tear in his eye when he thought of the power Dems would get from rapidly increasing immigration.

I am hoping that McCain will have an epiphany, and will see what his policies will lead to. The total end of legal protection of newborns and the unborn would be unthinkable to me, but firm Dem control of congress, POTUS, and SCOTUS would cost us even more than that.


38 posted on 02/14/2008 9:42:17 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: SkyPilot
Obama Ribbon
39 posted on 02/14/2008 9:57:25 PM PST by littlehouse36
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To: Global2010

The U.S. is so unbelievably barbaric in so many ways, yet somehow the country is producing the fantastic soldiers whose stories somehow leak out of Iraq—the incredible courage, and kindness, and faith. I think there are three groups keeping this country from being destroyed with fire and brimstone: cloistered monks and nuns, praying for all of us, pro-lifers, and our soldiers who daily perform incredible acts of kindness for so many in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The ones inviting fire and brimstone are the millions who have killed 50 million of their own babies, the campaigners against marriage, and the political pro-abortion Communicants and the bishops (Wuerl of Washington, Mahony of Los Angeles, etc., etc.) who are too chicken to stop them.


40 posted on 02/14/2008 10:01:23 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: kc8ukw

Are you kidding? His pastor is a Red, pure and simple.


41 posted on 02/14/2008 10:02:04 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Anti-Hillary

Another reason not to vote for Obama.


42 posted on 02/14/2008 10:07:15 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Anti-Hillary
Pray for an end to abortion and the conversion of America to a mindset of life!

43 posted on 02/14/2008 10:09:36 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Anti-Hillary

This has a thread already:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1969512/posts


44 posted on 02/14/2008 10:21:28 PM PST by TBP
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To: darkangel82
McCain isn’t really pro-life either, unfortunately.

Unfortunately true. He's for embryonic stem cell research. And he said he wouldn't be appointing judges like Alito.

45 posted on 02/14/2008 10:24:42 PM PST by TBP
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To: Anti-Hillary

46 posted on 02/14/2008 10:35:36 PM PST by AliVeritas ( (To err is human, but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council))
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To: khnyny

I’ve discussed it from Darwin to Sanger to Klan Parenthood.

Everybody’s stuck in a PC brand of Stockholm Syndrome.

Life is everything... and trust me, that isn’t all going on with him.

To think anyone at this forum would even think of voting for him period, is disgusting. Obviously, they haven’t done their homework and are longing for the 60’s, MLK preaching experience without church, a way to get rid of non-existent prejudices... A 97% liberal record to boot.

Did you see his socialist Global Policy Act that the Foreign Relations Comm. rushed through and vote? Everyone should read it... and go read the UN Millen. doc they speak of conforming to. It’s not just .7 of our GDP they want.

You and I know what the UN does. People need to wake up instead of listening to someone who ‘tickles their ears’.


47 posted on 02/14/2008 10:46:50 PM PST by AliVeritas ( (To err is human, but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council))
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To: AliVeritas

OBAMANATION


48 posted on 02/14/2008 10:47:56 PM PST by WOSG (I'm voting for the best man on the ballot - Mitt Romney)
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To: Rennes Templar

Maybe two.


49 posted on 02/14/2008 10:47:56 PM PST by AliVeritas ( (To err is human, but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council))
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To: Norman Bates

So what’s your point? You want to vote for an aborting, socialist, islamist?

Are you voting at all?


50 posted on 02/14/2008 10:50:54 PM PST by AliVeritas ( (To err is human, but to really screw up it takes the Berkeley City Council))
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