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To: Just mythoughts
Joseph certainly was NOT Muslim but he is related to their father Ishmael, first child of Abraham.

... who some believe was the father (Ismael, not Abraham) of the muslim religion. There's a TV minister who talks extensively about this. I can't remember his name though.

98 posted on 02/15/2008 8:04:33 AM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: al_c

Genesis 16:16;17;21 describes Abraham’s first child.

Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. 21 But My covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this *set* time in the nest year.

I have no clue if Joseph’s remains are actually still in this tomb but if they are it sure would be interesting to have a DNA study done to tell us about him.


104 posted on 02/15/2008 8:30:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: al_c
who some believe was the father (Ismael, not Abraham) of the muslim religion

well, the TV mnister is wrong. Ishmael would have been one of the fore-runners of Peninsular arabs (ie BEdouins who live in what is now Saudi arabia, remember that Syrians, Egyptians etc. are NOT real arabs, no matter what they want to believe -- they want to pretend to be arabs because the koran says that Arabs are superior people because Mo was one of them, hence all Muslims try to act like arabs -- that's why the Taliban forced men to wear beards, because Mo had a beard, that's why Pakistanis and Afghanis and Iranis who are ARyanic peoples try to pretend to be arabic, ditto for Malays and Indonesians who are afro-asiatic.

If Ishmael founded Islam, why did it die out for 2600 years until Mo -- the BEdos were all pagans at Mo's time, or were Jews or Arian-Christians or Ethiopian Christian --> remember that CHRISTIAN Ethiopia (Christian from the 3rd century AD) conquered Yemen and nearly conquered Mecca 1 century before MO
167 posted on 02/15/2008 10:23:38 PM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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