Posted on 02/16/2008 1:16:08 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
Mormons on FR were on here denying that Mormons believed Jesus & Satans were brothers.
Then later Mormons admitted that they did believe Jesus & Satan were brothers.
Since Mormons are apparently confused about their own beliefs, do you really expect Mike Huckabee to know better than them!?
Exactly.
I’ve known enough so that I would not allow one to be in the same room as my child or money.
> Huckabee couldn’t give up his trailer when he was govenor!
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Wait! It wasn’t a trailer! It was a triple-wide. Let’s at least give Huck credit where credit is due!
I don’t see why you need to try to trash other religions because the Mormons believe something.
The Huckster and his minions are religious bigots.””
Correct!!
Where does he come from, saying that Mormons worship a different Jesus Christ than Baptists do???
I’, not Mormon, but I think Huckabee is a real part of fringe element.
On a lighter note:
A letter to America from John Cleese,
“and now for something completely different”,
http://starrgazr.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/john-cleeses-letter-to-america/
Wrong.
Satan is a created being.
Jesus always was.
“I’d like to know under what context a christian preacher who has been calling himself the “christian” candidate could say that Jesus and Satan were brothers that would NOT sound like an attack on the Mormon faith.”
How about the context of Mormon doctrine that teaches that
Jesus and Satan and all angels are created spirit brothers?
This is, of course, very different than Christian doctrine
that teaches Jesus was never created.
My understanding was that Huck was specifically asked about
mormonism and he said he thought they taught the above.
Personally, I think he purposely said it because he knew it
would alienate Christians from Romney.
ampu
My point was that a political campaign is not the place to bring out theological differences, but to discuss policy differences. It was a cheap shot by Huckabee, and anyone who thinks he didn’t know what he was doing is even stupider than someone with a Degree in Religious Studies who didn’t know the answer to his silly question about Mormon theology.
Do you think that it is a legitimate question to ask in the context of a Presidential campaign? If so, then asking about Catholics ‘eating flesh’ and ‘drinking blood’ is just as legitimate. I feel they are both out of bounds within the context of a political election.
“How many do you speak for, anyway? (Either the number or the percentage will do).”
A bit OCD don’t you think? Let’s first look back at your statement that started this little sideshow:
“Mike Huckabevil and Fred Chumpson both deserve a pitchforks and torches rally in their front yards.”
Nope I don’t have numbers and I don’t have percentages. But if I am the only person on FR who does not wish to emulate the tactics of the KKK, then I am decidedly in the wrong place.
For crying out loud, chill.
Huckabee graduated magna cum laude from Ouachita Baptist University, completing his bachelor's degree in Religion in 2½ years before attending Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth. His area of expertise is in Evangelical Baptism. Your statement makes as much sense as complaining than an expert in classical French literature doesn't understand phrases in 14th century Italian and must be trying to slander Dante's Inferno by asking questions about the awkward sections of it. If Huck took religious studies at Brigham Young University, the situation would be quite different. The Pope is probably just as bewildered by Mormon doctrine, I guess he's not qualified to run the Catholic church by your reasoning.
>> And bringing theological differences up in the context of a campaign for the nomination for the Presidency is a disgraceful and disgusting tactic. That is the place to compare and contrast policy differences, not theological differences. <<
As Huckabee's background is a minister, it was perfectly legit topic to discuss his background to others, since again, Huck made it clear that his differences with Mormonism were not political and he had NO PROBLEMS with electing Mormons to office who agree with him on political issues. (unlike Katherine Harris, who again, publicly stated that ONLY Christians should be elected to office "or you're voting for sin", and her and her legions of defenders on FR who want a religious test in America were rebuked by me, as were the freepers who said Keith Ellison should "not be allowed" to be sworn into office unless he pledges allegiance to the bible)
Huckabee is comparing his background as a Baptist Minister to what Mormon doctrine is. It's no more inapporpiate than an corporate lawyer running for office to compare his private sector experiences to a criminal defense lawyer running for the same office. It should be the deciding factor on who gets elected by it's certainly legit to discuss differences in people's private sector lives.
The liberals who attack Huckabee and Bush as eeeeevil bible thumpers wanting a "theology" in America are just desperately trying to paint devout Christians as bigots for their own gain, in contrast to Katherine Harris and Dennis Prager, who HAVE publicly stated they prefer a religious test for office -- and should be rightfully rebuked for doing so.
Huck protesteth too much.
Huckabee graduated magna cum laude from Ouachita Baptist University, completing his bachelor's degree in Religion in 2½ years before attending Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth. His area of expertise is in Evangelical Baptism. Your statement makes as much sense as complaining than an expert in classical French literature doesn't understand phrases in 14th century Italian and must be trying to slander Dante's Inferno by asking questions about the awkward sections of it. If Huck took religious studies at Brigham Young University, the situation would be quite different. The Pope is probably just as bewildered by Mormon doctrine, I guess he's not qualified to run the Catholic church by your reasoning.
>> And bringing theological differences up in the context of a campaign for the nomination for the Presidency is a disgraceful and disgusting tactic. That is the place to compare and contrast policy differences, not theological differences. <<
As Huckabee's background is a minister, it was perfectly legit topic to discuss his background to others, since again, Huck made it clear that his differences with Mormonism were not political and he had NO PROBLEMS with electing Mormons to office who agree with him on political issues. (unlike Katherine Harris, who again, publicly stated that ONLY Christians should be elected to office "or you're voting for sin", and her and her legions of defenders on FR who want a religious test in America were rebuked by me, as were the freepers who said Keith Ellison should "not be allowed" to be sworn into office unless he pledges allegiance to the bible)
Huckabee is comparing his background as a Baptist Minister to what Mormon doctrine is. It's no more inapporpiate than an corporate lawyer running for office to compare his private sector experiences to a criminal defense lawyer running for the same office. It shouldn't be the deciding factor on who gets elected by it's certainly legit to discuss differences in people's private sector lives.
The liberals who attack Huckabee and Bush as eeeeevil bible thumpers wanting a "theology" in America are just desperately trying to paint devout Christians as bigots for their own gain, in contrast to Katherine Harris and Dennis Prager, who HAVE publicly stated they prefer a religious test for office -- and should be rightfully rebuked for doing so.
I have a degree in Biology, but I learned Chemistry, Physics, and Math as well. I guess Religion Studies degrees arn’t worth much, no wonder Huckabee tried to pass it off as a Theology degree.
Religious beliefs come first in forming the character of a man. Religious beliefs are everything.
You might want to start your research here:
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/m04.html
But without hesitation I would take a random sample of any group of these men in any crisis, any tragedy's, any emergency, any danger above all others.
After 30 years, I am not jaded nor cynical, having witnessed real Christianity at work in an ever increasing hostile culture.
Wait a minute. Satan was an archangel that God sent to Hell for operating against HIM. And long before God sent His son Jesus here when He was needed here. The LDS may analyze things for a doctrine, but they do not refute the Holy Bible in any way.
It's a method to sway ignorant people with obscure facts in order to make them glance sideways at other people. And Huckabee is a Baptist Minister that broke at least 2 Commandments by doing that: using the Lord for vain purposes and lying.
Which resulted with people in general seeing through him and another denomination in particular paying very close attention to him.
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