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Huckabee scolds those who say he alienated Mormons
Scripps News ^ | Feb 13, 2008 | Thomas Burr

Posted on 02/16/2008 1:16:08 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT

WASHINGTON -- Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee says it is "unfounded" for anyone to say he has alienated the Mormon community or that he used rival Mitt Romney's LDS faith as a wedge issue.

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Huckabee said he would have concern if anyone said he had estranged the Mormon community.

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"Anyone who says that I have this anti-Mormon prejudice is absolutely off the mark," Huckabee said. "And it has no basis whatsoever."

Some Mormon Republicans, though, say Huckabee ran a campaign playing off the concern some Protestant evangelicals have for Mormons, viewed as heretical by some groups. Some evangelicals do not consider Mormons to be Christians.

Huckabee ran television spots in Iowa calling himself a "Christian leader," and refused to say whether he thought the LDS Church was a cult, referring that question instead to Romney.

Kirk Jowers, director of the University of Utah's Hinckley Institute for Politics and a Romney friend and supporter, said he wonders if Huckabee's response this week was "revisionist history."

But "I'm very happy to hear him say that," Jowers said. "And I suppose the best thing to do is accept him at his word. However, his approach to Romney's religion seemed very different in the days leading up to Iowa."

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Huckabee said he personally apologized to Romney for "any pain that would have caused."

(Excerpt) Read more at scrippsnews.com ...


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Huckabee says he was "taken out of context". I'd like to know under what context a christian preacher who has been calling himself the "christian" candidate could say that Jesus and Satan were brothers that would NOT sound like an attack on the Mormon faith.

I'm not sure I'm ready to be scolded by Huckabee for believing he played into the anti-Mormon sentiment that is prevalent in the Southern Baptist church.

The article notes that some Mormons have said they wouldn't vote for Huckabee because of his anti-Mormon approach to the election. So whether Huckabee meant to do so or not, it's clear he said things that made them think he opposed them. Since the conservative Mormons are among our best allies in the social conservative movement, it's hardly smart to be antagonizing them over religious matters in the political realm.

1 posted on 02/16/2008 1:16:11 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The Huckster and his minions are religious bigots.


2 posted on 02/16/2008 1:17:29 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

How can the truth be an attack?


3 posted on 02/16/2008 1:18:47 PM PST by donna (Before they gave us McCain, they tried to give us Rudy.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

He did it all right, now he’s gonna have to live with the consequences of his bigotry.


4 posted on 02/16/2008 1:19:04 PM PST by kjo
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Put all the intolerant ones in wooden stocks and place them in the middle of town square.


5 posted on 02/16/2008 1:20:45 PM PST by kinghorse (Surname first in the Eastern Male Cultures. Obama Barrack Hussein it is. OBH for short)
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To: kjo

Bingo!


6 posted on 02/16/2008 1:22:31 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: donna

The sooner Rev. Huckabee is off the stage, the better for our nation and our party. (IMHO, of course)


7 posted on 02/16/2008 1:23:53 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: CharlesWayneCT

He can’t bail the water out fast enough to keep is row boat a float. And it is not Holy Water!


8 posted on 02/16/2008 1:25:06 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Jesus and Satan.. and all of us are children of Heavenly Father. Jesus was the first born in the spirit as well as the only born to God the Father in the Flesh.

Satan joined with 1/3 of the hosts of heaven(children of our Heavenly rather.. brothers and sisters of both Jesus and Satan) and rebelled and was cast down to earth. It’s basic doctrine. However, the main-stream christian doctrine(depending on which of the 20,000 beliefs out there) is not sure who Satan or Christ really are relative to God the Father. That’s why Huckabee maybe is not clear on this issue himself.


9 posted on 02/16/2008 1:25:09 PM PST by Count of Monte Logan
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Mike Huckabevil and Fred Chumpson both deserve a pitchforks and torches rally in their front yards.

10 posted on 02/16/2008 1:25:48 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I will give him this - he is an extremely good liar, particularly when lying about his past. It must be a prerequisite to be a Governor of Arkansas.


11 posted on 02/16/2008 1:26:28 PM PST by coramdeo
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To: donna
Truth, my friend, is a *very* subjective thing.

The mormons learned their last lesson about mixing religion and politics (overtly, as in the case of the Huckster) back in June of 1844.

In America, folks take their personal religion/beliefs or lack thereof, very seriously. One only need to look at the contentious issue of abortion on demand as just one small example. So, be careful of "the truth".

12 posted on 02/16/2008 1:26:32 PM PST by ASOC
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Huckabee is either a bigot, or he’s clueless.


13 posted on 02/16/2008 1:27:43 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: donna

Absolutely. The Mormon Church has yet to deny that they believe Jesus and Satan are brothers. They cannot deny it because it is doctrine.

Unfortunately, Huckabee probably was doing a little “nod, nod, wink, wink” thing when he brought it up knowing that it would draw a contrast between his Christianity and Mormonism. He knew what he is doing.

The sad result was that Romney made his “Mormon speech”, modeled after JFK’s famous “Catholic speech” thereby making further discussion of Mormonism off-limits and very politically incorrect.

Yet at the same time, attacks on evangelical Christianity remain perfectly acceptable.


14 posted on 02/16/2008 1:28:29 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Same with Mitt.


16 posted on 02/16/2008 1:32:36 PM PST by donna (Before they gave us McCain, they tried to give us Rudy.)
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To: I see my hands
"Mike Huckabevil and Fred Chumpson both deserve a pitchforks and torches rally in their front yards."

I know I speak for many when I say thank you for your attempt to elevate the level of intelligent discourse on this forum.
17 posted on 02/16/2008 1:32:43 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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How can the truth be an attack?

Oh please.

Because the statement "they believe Jesus and Satan were brothers" invokes the thought of Earthly brotherhood (without knowing the real teachings) and that it is a central key tenant of our belief (it rarely taught and emphasized). The real belief is that everyone are brothers and sisters (taught much more frequently). The statement is used to invoke shock at the differences in religions.

Imagine if someone said "don't Catholics believe in the cannibalizing of Christ". While not accurate it is "true" (notice the quotes) and used to invoke shock. And yes I've heard people say the cannibalize thing before against Catholics.

18 posted on 02/16/2008 1:34:13 PM PST by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Huckabee said he was somewhat vague on Mormon doctrine and asked whether the Mormon church actually teaches that Jesus and Satan are brothers. The answer is that the Mormon church does indeed hold a doctrine that implies such a thing, it holds that Jesus and Satan were "spirit brothers" both sons of Elohim (God the Father) , and that Satan rebeled against his brother Jesus' plan for salvation, so he was cast out and became the Devil.

This is no more an attack on the Mormon faith than it is to bring up that Jehovah's Witnesses have been predicting the eniment end of the world since 1875 or that the Muslim faith teaches that Muhammad took a wife who was nine years old. All of these teachings can be found in those religions, regardless of how you intrepret it (you could say literally, symbolically, figuratively, etc.), it is part of their doctrine.

Every religion has some weird quarky views. Mitt Romney could just have easily asked where Huckabee's Southern Baptist faith teaches that woman must submit graciously to their husbands, and Romney would simply be telling the truth as well.

Huckabee made it clear that he opposes the idea of voting against anyone because of his or her faith and he was perfectly comfortable with having a Mormon run this nation. His quarrel with Romney was over the issues, the fact Huckabee thought several of the Mormon church's doctrines were weird and outside mainstream Christian beliefs did not affect Romney's qualifications to be President, and certainly wasn't "anti-Mormon bigotry" anymone than the vast majority of Americans who also agree that Mormonism is far removed from mainstream Christian doctrine. Joe Lieberman is a Jew, but if you said he does not accept Jesus as his savior, it's not an attack unless you said "only people who accept Jesus as their savior should hold office" (which is something Katherine Harris foolishly said during her Senate race, was harshly rebuked by me)

19 posted on 02/16/2008 1:34:23 PM PST by BillyBoy (Wasn't the "goal" on FR to STOP Rudy McRomney? Then VOTE HUCKABEE!!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Welll it is really hard to ‘discern’ how much the doctrine of Mormon faith bugggged Huckabee or the fact that Romney seems to have been blessed with a ‘wealth’ that continues to escape Huckabee.


20 posted on 02/16/2008 1:34:40 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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